Samsung series 7 slate vs Fujitsu stylistic q550

[aqtaket]

Hello!
I've realized that I want a PC tablet))
For internet surfing, MS Office (mostly Word and Excell, photos post production (RAW files from my digital camera), watching movies etc.
All these thing are when i'm "on the go" - traveling and so on.
Now I'm trying to choose between Samsung and Fujitsu (newer version with Z690). Samsung pros:
Processor, RAM, bigger SSD, larger screen, design (it's more sleek, but in fact, I don't care), aluminum body, the "official" possibility to be upgraded to Win 8 for free in the future.
Samsung cons: the brand (I don't know why, but I dislike Samsung),
the battery cannot be replaced
and THE MAIN drawback - I've read MANY threads anbout screen issues - raise and delaminating (and some dead pixels). I really wouldn't like to send my almost brand new tablet to get fixed (and I live not in the US, sending it their for repair would be pricy, too) - I'm going to buy it from a US online store.
Fujitsu pros: the brand (lol), to my understanding, there should be no issues with screen and overall build quality, as it is made in Japan, the full (not mini) SD card slot, 4 USB ports in the dock/craddle, smaller overall dimensions (not the thickness), fingerprint reader (never had anything like that - would be interesting), 3g sim card slot - I don't know if it works in my country, though. And of course, the ability to swap the batteries.
and the cons:
1. Processor.
2. RAM
3. "Cheapy" plastic (I don't know if it is really "cheapy" - maybe the owners od Q550s will share their opinion - on some sites I read that it is made of magnesium alloy - I mean the newer model)
4. Smaller SSD
5. The system - I found not a single word on the internet that these tablets will be upgraded to Win 8 for free.
6. Smaller screen (but it should be of really good quality)
So, I'm really taken aback - what should I buy?
By the way, will 500Gb external portable HDD work with these tablets with no problem (will they have enough power)?
So, that is the dilemma...

[thatcomicsguy]

Say what?

You can't replace the S7S's battery? I didn't realize this! And pardon my ignorance, but isn't that sort of insane?

It basically means Samsung is selling disposable computers. For $1300 a pop.

I guess it's good, in that capable people will be able to pick them up on eBay for nothing in a couple of years and hack them, but still..! Whatever happened to the idea of building things to last?

I mean, why not just skip the pretense and put a counter in the thing which auto-bricks the device after a set period of time and be done with it?

My advice? Get a device made by a company which isn't trying to manipulate you into giving them thirteen hundred dollars every two years.

[aqtaket]

thatcomicsguy,
So, you advise getting a Fujitsu?
But it'll be too "old fashioned" within the nearest couple of years? Just my thoughts...
And yeah, I also dislike the "consumeristic" policy of Samsung, Apple and some other company...
Frankly, I'm inclined to get a Fuji

[e-schreiber]

You can't replace the S7S's battery? I didn't realize this! And pardon my ignorance, but isn't that sort of insane?

It basically means Samsung is selling disposable computers. For $1300 a pop.

The S7S's remarkable thinness comes at a price. Making the battery replaceable would require the device to be 2mm thicker. However, because people nowadays treasure slim gadgets so much, Samsung made the business decision to build the S7S as thin as they possibly could.... Sad thing is, the screen-lift issue would have never manifested itself if Samsung had made the device 2mm thicker. And that extra 2mm would also have made it possible for them to put a full-size HDMI port in the tablet. Engineering requires compromises....and consuming too.

@aqtaket: Given that you don't live in the US, it's probably a better idea to forget about the S7S. Have you considered the Asus EP121 or B121? They are somewhat similar to the S7S but without the screen problems. Other than that, I'd suggest that you wait till the Holidays and buy one of the 32 Win8 tablets that, according to the press, will hit the shelves in Q4.

[aqtaket]

e-schreiber,

I looked at Asus tablets, really liked Samsung more... But I can't wait till Q4, I need a tablet now
Ireally hope that after optimozing and tweaking system, the q550 will perform... Nice screen, nice built... But a compromissive processor...
I'm not going to edit movies on it,but I hope to be able to use Adobe photoshop sometimes. The primary aim - surfing, watching movies, but i do need some MS apps, that is why i do not consider Android tabs

[usatya]

Using the S7S the top end model for last 5 months have no issues. works dual boot win8 & takes 500gb ext. drive, except the Samsung software updater does not respond soon. Bought thru online Amazon but using in India with out a service support. SS provides chat support but that does not help much. Screen resolution sets to auto even if you set it manual, has any one faced similar issues, pl advice. Otherwise I am happy with the piece, though expensive. Before the S7S buying decision, reviewed all the models quoted hereunder since the S7S preview at a MS preview of Windows8.I have nothing to do with SS but I recommend S7S to prospective tablet buyers with windos os. SS should drop the price say to 800 bucks sooner or later for a 64gb model looking at the ensuing competition.

Hello!
I've realized that I want a PC tablet))
For internet surfing, MS Office (mostly Word and Excell, photos post production (RAW files from my digital camera), watching movies etc.
All these thing are when i'm "on the go" - traveling and so on.
Now I'm trying to choose between Samsung and Fujitsu (newer version with Z690). Samsung pros:
Processor, RAM, bigger SSD, larger screen, design (it's more sleek, but in fact, I don't care), aluminum body, the "official" possibility to be upgraded to Win 8 for free in the future.
Samsung cons: the brand (I don't know why, but I dislike Samsung),
the battery cannot be replaced
and THE MAIN drawback - I've read MANY threads anbout screen issues - raise and delaminating (and some dead pixels). I really wouldn't like to send my almost brand new tablet to get fixed (and I live not in the US, sending it their for repair would be pricy, too) - I'm going to buy it from a US online store.
Fujitsu pros: the brand (lol), to my understanding, there should be no issues with screen and overall build quality, as it is made in Japan, the full (not mini) SD card slot, 4 USB ports in the dock/craddle, smaller overall dimensions (not the thickness), fingerprint reader (never had anything like that - would be interesting), 3g sim card slot - I don't know if it works in my country, though. And of course, the ability to swap the batteries.
and the cons:
1. Processor.
2. RAM
3. "Cheapy" plastic (I don't know if it is really "cheapy" - maybe the owners od Q550s will share their opinion - on some sites I read that it is made of magnesium alloy - I mean the newer model)
4. Smaller SSD
5. The system - I found not a single word on the internet that these tablets will be upgraded to Win 8 for free.
6. Smaller screen (but it should be of really good quality)
So, I'm really taken aback - what should I buy?
By the way, will 500Gb external portable HDD work with these tablets with no problem (will they have enough power)?
So, that is the dilemma...

[thatcomicsguy]

thatcomicsguy,
So, you advise getting a Fujitsu?
But it'll be too "old fashioned" within the nearest couple of years? Just my thoughts...
And yeah, I also dislike the "consumeristic" policy of Samsung, Apple and some other company...
Frankly, I'm inclined to get a Fuji

I like the S7S in many ways. I would prefer a larger screen, though its aspect ratio seems to be an industry-wide problem, and not one which can be easily solved by switching to another brand. And the fact that you'll eventually need to be using it tethered to a power outlet is something to consider. I personally require and expect the life-cycle of a computer to be considerably longer than the preferred industry limits, but that's me. I'll buy new gear when chips and software make a watershed leap into areas I consider worthy of exploiting. Until then, I expect a piece of hardware to last and function effectively until I choose to retire it, not when it chooses, --and then for it to see useful service in sectors where used computers are appreciated.

I looked elsewhere on this forum at a disassembly of the machine, and it looks like the battery is a discrete unit. Probably replaceable eventually.



I've never used Fujitsu, but people seem to like them.

Whatever the case, the next six months might be worth waiting through as the latest gear will be showing up soon, if you can last that long.

[thatcomicsguy]

The S7S's remarkable thinness comes at a price. Making the battery replaceable would require the device to be 2mm thicker. However, because people nowadays treasure slim gadgets so much, Samsung made the business decision to build the S7S as thin as they possibly could.... Sad thing is, the screen-lift issue would have never manifested itself if Samsung had made the device 2mm thicker. And that extra 2mm would also have made it possible for them to put a full-size HDMI port in the tablet. Engineering requires compromises....and consuming too.

I doubt very much that it was an engineering impossibility to make the battery replaceable. Engineers are clever, and even within its current design, it looks to me from the image above that the battery was made to have been used as part of the exterior back panel just like any other removable battery. --Should they have chosen, which they obviously didn't. I'd be very surprised if the choice wasn't primarily, (if not entirely) due to a marketing mandate.

Also. . , I have to disagree; engineering advancement doesn't require a disposable society by any means despite how things have been set up currently to run thanks to our fraudulent pyramid-scheme banking system, (and not even so much as we've been led to believe). It should also be remembered that this very system has kept us in the stone-age technologically speaking for the last sixty years while actual knowledge is super-advanced in other areas, (black-world military) and kept from us, thanks again to the same forces which brought us fractional banking and other slave-maintenance systems.

Whatever the case, Samsung (and Apple and everybody else) deserve no excuses for creating self-destructing hardware. If they want people to buy new gear, it should be because they have created something superior, not because their last ones expired by design.

[aqtaket]

Yeah, I think I'll stick to Fujitsu...

[royale]

Not sure about Fujitsu warranty policy but I've been very thankful for Samsung's international warranty.
I bought my unit via a US retailer but Samsung Australia were happy to take responsibility for warranty repairs and then replaced it with an Australian model when the problem (Ethernet port) reappeared.
Their service was not fantastic in terms of timing and tardiness, but they came through in the end.