Zbook X2 Just Announced

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  1. darkmagistric

    darkmagistric Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    I'm the complete opposite on that stance. I can't stand those super fine tipped Nibs Samsung uses. Literally feels like I'm stabbing the screen with a toothpick. Thats mostly why I got the zBook pen to use with my Galaxy Book. But I disagree about the accuracy....the Zbook Nibs are just as accurate to the pixel as Samsungs...Samsung's are just physically smaller. Accuracy is still dead on the same.
     
  2. ramosdesign75

    ramosdesign75 Pen Pal - Newbie

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    I guess we have a difference of opinion.

    To clarify, I do not think the hp zbook pen tips are less accurate. I think that because the tip is more narrow, the tip is visually more accurate. I think it also depends on how you use the pen as well.

    For me, I ink and pencil a lot of fine details in illustrations I create I also use mechanical pencils traditionally, which is why I prefer the fine tip.

    Now if I wanted to create broader strokes, then I would opt for the thicker pen tip.

    I also tend to draw very light handed which also may impact my choice as well.
     
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    Well in my hunt for documentation about light leakage on panels and HP specifications... I'm holding out hope for the x2 update.

    https://support.hp.com/au-en/produc...tible-workstation/20075826/document/c06060715

    At the bottom of the list, there's a Zbook Studio x360 G6 and they've got the Zbook x2 G4 listed twice, I'm hoping that means someone just made a typo. Considering how well HP has been editing their documentation lately, a simple typo is very possible.

    Then again it's also possible HP does a reissue of the G4 with the refresh chips bumping it from say an i7-8650U to an i7-8665U, which is possible to do without changing much of anything on the motherboard. Though reissue as a G4 makes little sense since they did that once with the jump from the 7000 series to 8000 series cpus.
     
  4. Steve S

    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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    Three Intel "System" updates appeared on my X2 this morning by way of Windows Update. Installation and Restart were uneventful.

    Meanwhile, the HP Support Assistant reported no updates currently available.
     
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    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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    <<...I'm holding out hope for the x2 update...At the bottom of the list, there's a Zbook Studio x360 G6 and they've got the Zbook x2 G4 listed twice, I'm hoping that means someone just made a typo...>

    ...I don't think that it's a typo. Remember that there are two models of the X2; one with the DreamColor display and one with the "standard" IPS display. That's probably why it's listed twice.

    However, like you, I also hope for an X2 update. It's not much, but I think that it is encouraging that the X2 is still in the HP line-up and you can still build custom X2 configurations...
     
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    @SAM 2013
    I found the speakers to be quite weak in comparison to my MS Surface.

    I also noticed that I could bump up the volume to twice as loud in some software too, particularly VLC where you can use the scroll wheel function to put the volume up to 200%

    The only solution I found to this was to open the Bang & Olufsen Control Panel and select Equalizer at the bottom of the window and then bump up all the bars on the equalizer. Too far and it caused distortion, this would likely cause speaker damage too if overused.

    I rarely use my laptop speakers so it was fine for my circumstances.
     
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  7. artistebot

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    If HP would release a Zbook X2 successor w 3:2 screen and express keys that can be combined (2 buttons pressed together..) I would likely upgrade ASAP.

    Also change the keyboard so that it is more a clam shell-style rather than floppy so it can be used like a traditional laptop.

    Otherwise my Current X2 is still fantastic.

    Has anyone found a (step-by-step?) guide on how to better "optimize" windows (latest ver) for tablet screens/de-bloat windows to remove as much as possible leaving only:

    A simple UI without effects (simple dark grey, no transparency, animations, etc...)
    Duplicate apps, leaving only essential system tools and art productivity apps. (no games, no ads, no bling, etc)
    Perhaps "Android-Like" so the use of the menus and bar are not necessary?
    An optimal on-screen keyboard when needed during the use such as PS or zBrush?


    I hate mucking around in windows, so many ways to do the same or similar thing and not knowing there is difference?
     
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  8. Steve S

    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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    <<...If HP would release a Zbook X2 successor w 3:2 screen and express keys that can be combined...I would likely upgrade ASAP...>>

    Certainly nice ideas, but I think that the best we can hope for if the X2 gets updated is a CPU / GPU and probably a port upgrade. As has been pointed out elsewhere on the forums, the new generation of Intel integrated graphics has improved so much that discrete CPU / GPU approaches (for mobile applications) no longer have as much attraction as they used to. Because of this, I wouldn't be surprised if HP eliminated the X2's discrete GPU and simply went with an Intel processor, trading the power consumption of that extra hardware for better overall battery operating life. However, such a change might depend upon how intertwined the DreamColor display is with the GPU. HP might continue to use a discrete GPU if major circuitry changes were needed to connect the DreamColor display to an Intel integrated GPU.
     
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    I hope not, the Quadro is essential for proper CAD applications!
    That said, the drain on the battery from having it active all the time to drive the Dreamcolour display is very annoying. I'm also pretty sure the device gets hotter with the Quadro running too, which makes the drawing experience less ideal than it could be.
    I took this up with workstation sales before deciding which version to buy & got a technical explanation from a specialist department. The problem (ironically) relates to the design of the Intel chip as the 8th gen processors are incapable of driving 10-bit colour & apparently the way that's overcome in an external monitor requires a separate very power hungry chip, which also has a habit of getting hot.
    I'm told the limitation will be removed on future intel processors, so the Quadro can be used only when needed.
    In the mean time, it is possible to disable the discreet graphics in BIOS, which makes a significant difference, but I've found it a pain from a practical point of view.
     
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    Is there anyone else who formatted the HP image and did a clean install of Windows 10 who's experiencing glitchy behaviour with their X2?
    The main issue I've got is that the keyboard stops working when connected after waking from sleep - it starts working fine over Bluetooth when I disconnect, but a restart is required to get it working otherwise!
    I should point out that I've got HP SoftPaq & installed all the essential softs & drivers as advised by HP tech support.

    I'm wondering if I should suck it up and go back to the official HP image, which I'm loath to do on principle due to all the bloat, but this is frustrating.. Any experience or opinions to share?
     
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