Yogabook C930

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  1. SAM 2013

    SAM 2013 Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Works just like an external Wacom tablet.
    You drive the pen/cursor from the bottom section, however, you lose
    your keyboard. You'll need an external keyboard or have to use
    the on-screen one.

    I prefer the on-screen digitizing for drawing though there are instances where
    using the digitizer tablet works better for some scenarios
     
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  2. SAM 2013

    SAM 2013 Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    My pen had jaggies and generally mis-behaved.
    Once you use the registry hack to enable the legacy thing,
    it works pretty good considering it's not a true EMR.
     
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    What registry hack? Explain!
     
  4. SAM 2013

    SAM 2013 Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    It straightens out the dragging and scrolling when your pen touches the
    screen. The pen was almost useless in older programs.
    It was so bad, I was considering returning the Yogabook.
    ComicGuy put me onto this fix via Redditt post,
    it did help to make the c930 useful for what I use it for.
    Especially on legacy(older) programs under Windows 10.

    It settled the jitter from what it was initially, which was really wild/useless
    BUT it does not eliminate it! I think it's a Wacom AES thing.
    I wish this computer had an EMR pen, would be much more
    useful for fine work.

    The slow diagonal is still going to be wavy. You need to make
    a quick forceful stroke to get a straight line.

    AES seems to be between Dells(old) pen and the NTrig.
    You are not going to get the EMR smoothness. At least as far as
    I have experienced. I agree, this is not an artist pad, use your EMR
    tablet for fine work.
    But it works for rough sketching and note taking. The eInk side works great
    outside in the sun for rough sketches and note taking, even reading pdfs etc!

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    Here's the registry hack:
    A couple of ways to accomplish this
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    Method #1
    Create Reg entry via Command Prompt

    1--Remember to back up your registry before diving in.
    2--Win+X
    3--Command Prompt Admin (Important to select Admin Command Prompt)
    3a--Type: cd\ (Takes you to the root C:)
    4--Enter the following:

    reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pen /v LegacyPenInteractionModel /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

    5--Press Enter
    6--Restart Computer for Registry Entry to engage

    (7)--To undo, simply change to "1" to a "0" to turn off

    reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pen /v LegacyPenInteractionModel /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f

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    Method #2
    Create your own Reg file

    1--Remember to back up your registry before diving in
    2--Type in:

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pen /v LegacyPenInteractionModel /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

    3--Save as "Enable Legacy AES pen.reg"
    (Without quotes) or what ever you want to name it.
    4--Double click the .reg file and it will auto enter in the Registry
     
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  5. yodamiked

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    So I'm beginning to see used ones of these going for under $500USD on eBay these days. I know a lot of people talked about how that would be around the sweet spot, price-wise, when it was released. What are people's thoughts now that this has been in the market for a while? I'm personally having a hard time justifying it, knowing that the Surface Neo is coming.
     
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    Same feelings here.

    Sent from my SM-P205 using Tapatalk
     
  7. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Interesting. Having the ability to do some light computing, while also reading comfortably out in the sun does fit my lifestyle pretty well. I've been taking my giant Sony DPT-RP1 around, and using the phone for occasional email. It would be cool to do both on one device. So.. maybe a little tempted? Given that it would be an outdoorsy device, I like that it doesn't cost $1200. (JoeS buys used C930 in 3...2...)
     
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    @yodamiked:
    The neo is coming for holidays 2020, so you want to wait another year?

    I bought mine the day it was introduced in Germany and haven't looked back.
    It's a solid machine for what I am doing with it, so for $500 it's a steel
     
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    For $500 I'd be tempted as well especially now that the e-ink side can be used with epub format files.

    OTOH, $500 is still a lot of money for what looks like a potentially orphaned product.
     
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  10. SAM 2013

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    New Clone Mode update for the eInk screen:
    https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/tablets/yoga-series/yoga-book-c930/downloads/driver-list/component?name=Software and Utilities

    I also had to install the fix(2nd Update file)
    The keyboard would not re-engage when coming out of clone mode.
    The update seems to solve the problem. It did get stuck in lower resolution
    on color screen a couple of times. Had to manually reset resolution afterward.

    Identical screen on eInk panel. It's slow, but works for reading,
    your not going to edit videos or watch a movie very well.

    I tried One Note and Journal hanwriting. It is at least a half second delay.
    Reminds me of the old PDA days. Write blindly, wait and see what happens....LOL

    You can sort of annotate on PDF's, but it is blind writing.
    Would work in a pinch out in bright sunlight, where the color screen
    would be unreadable.

    There a another rumored update in December,
    although this one was supposed to be out in October.
     
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