Hey all, Bare with me for a minute. I'm going to ramble. So, I had and still have an x230t, love it. A workhorse that I used and abused but got a bit long in the tooth, primarily for screen resolution. Still used from time to time. About 2 years ago I got a ZBook x2 (specs in sig), it does the job. I've never had a Surface-style kickstand laptop so figured I'd take a stab. I loved the bezel buttons, but I'm just not finding I'm using it nearly as much as I had done my x230t. It's annoying to use as a laptop on the lap with the kickstand, the non-DremColour display is average, the battery life is average, and it's heavy to use - particularly when standing. So, I figure it's best to pass it along and see what else is out there. I've used my partner's Yoga 530 and it's fine, but I want something a little more. I'm not a huge fan of the consumer Lenovo line, mainly because of the trackpad - I really grew accostomed to the ThinkPad tackpad and keyboard and trust the build of the ThinkPad line from experience of the x230t. Granted the GPU options of the consumer line are great, but for what I plan on doing I don't see it being that much of a dealbreaker as I know how far I managed to push an i5 x230t and I just know the consumer trackpad/keyboard is just going to anooy the hell out of me. If I ever need I can always attach an eGPU, but I have a desktop that will do the heavy work. Usage Intention: - Light Fusion 360, mainly setting toolpaths. - Moderate use of the Affinity suite. - Light sculpting/sketching in Blender. - Setting up files to 3D print in several slicers. I'm looking primarily for a second-hand device as this will be going in and out of a workshop environment and I'm just not wanting to spend too much. Budget ~AUD $1000-1600. I think I've narrowed it to the either an Thinkpad Yoga Gen 2 or 3. Main wants from what research I've done: - i7 CPU - 14" @ 2K screen - 16GB RAM - Backlit keyboard - Matte Screen (not a deal breaker) - 256GB storage minimum What's around on the second-hand market in the moment, order of what I think is best to get: ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 3: AUD - Price TBC (ebay auction) - Intel Quad Core i7-8550U, 4.0GHz -14.0" WQHD (2560x1440) 270 nits IPS, AR (anti-reflection), touchscreen - 16GB Soldered LPDDR3-2133 - 512GB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe - Integrated Intel UHD Graphics - 720p HD and IR Camera with MIC - Lenovo Warranty: 300 days Thinkpad X1 Yoga Gen 2: AUD $1000 - CPU: Intel Dual Core i7-7500U, 3.5GHz - Storage: 512GB M.2 SSD - RAM: 16GB - Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 620 - Screen: 14" WQHD 300 nits IPS LCD Display (2560x1440), touchscreen - No warranty A BIG FAT MAYBE: ThinkPad Yoga 460: AUD $1440 - Intel Dual Core i7-6500U, 2.5GHz - 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SoDIMM Memory, Soldered - 256GB M.2 2280 SATA 6Gb/s SSD, Expandable - 14.0" WQHD (2560 x 1440), glare, LED backlit, IPS, 300 nits, touchscreen - nVIDIA® GeForce® 940M, 2GB DDR3 - Intel Integrated HD Graphics 520 - Lenovo Warranty: 2 Years Thinking the Yoga 460 is getting a bit old, but I wonder if the GPU could be a handy addition, plus the warranty time. I'll keep an eye out for other listings too, but I think this pretty well surmises the Australian availability. The higher specced CPU and 2K screen options of these models are relatively scarce here. 500nit Gen 3 is most probably a unicorn. Anyway, what is the collectives thoughts on these models? Cheers.