What Do You Want in the Surface Book 2

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  1. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    OK who's starting the thread?

    Still about the same weight, still no kickstand, still no thunderbolt. And no yoga hinge, not that I really expected one. Boo

    As an aside, now that this is out, what's left for the London event? VR headsets and WOA devices is all I can think of.
     
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    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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    <<...now that this is out, what's left for the London event?..>>

    ...That was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw the announcement! I wonder what's going on with Microsoft's event planning...?!??
     
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    Azzart Late night illustrator Senior Member

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    Costs too much for my pockets but how I would love the 15" 16gb of ram. :D
    Hope the made they fixed their new pen problems at least on this.
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    On a positive note, they claim up to 5h for the tablet, vs up to 3h battery life for the previous gen.
     
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    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    Although technically less powerful (especially GPU), the new Spectre x360 15 has 8th gen quad-core i7, MX150 dGPU, 16gb ram, 11tb ssd, 3840x2160 4k display, Thunderbolt 3 plus standard USB-C, HDMI, and USB-A for $1819.99, and the "cheap" SB2 15 starts at $2499 - that's a lot of scratch for 1060 graphics...can't even imagine what the 1TB ssd will cost you...

    Frankly, this will fly with the same handful of people who bought Surface Studio. It is INSANE at this point to not put Thunderbolt 3, ESPECIALLY in a device aimed squarely at the most sophisticated users. In fact, it is an INSULT!

    It has helped me make up my mind; I'm leaving the Surface camp. Don't know where I'll land (and may still peek in especially at WOA - which must be the real October surprise), but enough is a enough - this is not leading the pack - this is hoping the faithful are as faithful as Mac users and will follow you into hell, even when your keyboard is unusable ad you have to carry an extra bag of dongles no matter where you go (looking at you MacBook Pro).

    PS - I hear the resounding laughter throughout this board - give him a day to cool off and he'll be right back here - he always rants one way or the other - :confused:o_O - and you may be right (I like the idea of a 3:2 15" display)...

    But really, isn't anyone else troubled by this development...
     
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    Azzart Late night illustrator Senior Member

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    But the Spectre has the old gen of pen though.
    Honestly, the Surface Book remains the best computer I ever had and I would find the 15 inches perfect for me, it would even allow to double up as a decent VR device (by the way, to me the London event will revolve around the new VR Devices and features), it’s just that I don’t have enough money and even if I had the fiasco of the Surface Pro 2017 and its pen makes me wary of any new Microsoft products now.
     
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  7. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    Me too ... WOA please.
     
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    chongsen Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Which one to preorder ?

    GTX 1060 15 inch surface book 2 or
    fanless i7 13 inch surface book 2 ?
     
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    alextrela182 Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Wow just WOW
    OMG!!!

    Are we sure about lack of thunderbolt usb c port???

    According to CNET there’s Thunderbolt support.

    Maybe I’m wrong at the end.

    According to Techradar there’s no thunderbolt support.

    http://www.techradar.com/reviews/microsoft-surface-book-2

    It’s really BIG BIG SHAME on MS.



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    Yes, definitely only USB-C and not Thunderbolt.

    To give credit where it's (finally) due (and also with the admittance that this product just isn't for me in the first place), I'm glad Microsoft finally added a USB-C port and that it can be used for charging. That being said, it makes more sense to me if it was on the tablet portion instead of the keyboard portion. I mean, ideally both places, but especially the tablet portion.

    The reason I say this is although USB-C is capable of providing 100W of power, the max currently available is Apple's 87W USB-C charger. The Book charger is 95W according to Ars Technica (for the Book 1, but it seems likely they'd be in the same ballpark for Book 2), partially because it has to power and charge the much more power-hungry GPU base. The tablet portion, on the other hand, has much lower power needs. To me, a lower powered USB-PD charger for 'on the go' scenarios with only the tablet, and the 'full' charger for when using it in a more capable mode with the GPU just makes more sense.

    But then as I mentioned, this device isn't for me anyway, so what do I know. I'm probably on the other end of the spectrum these days with my 10.6" Core M PC. :D
     
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