Toshiba Portege X20W

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  1. rcxAsh

    rcxAsh Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Thanks Bitech, the Z20t does look really nice! I just wish it had a Thunderbolt 3 port with four lanes so I could have the possibility of using an external graphics card in the future. Also I wanted to get it in a Core i7 16 GB config, but for some reason, Toshiba Canada doesn't sell the Z20t in that config (actually they didn't even sell the X20w in that config - I just "lucked" out and found that the Microsoft Store carried that config). This is one of sometimes where I wish I lived closer to the US border so I could cross-border shop!

    At any rate, I did manage to get my hands on a Wacom Bamboo Ink pen, and it does make for a better writing experience for me - more because of the shape and texture of the pen's body. The pen Toshiba includes has a metal barrel that looks nice, but is really slippery to hold. The Wacom Bamboo Ink, however, is rubberized. I think for the most part the pressure seems curve more or less similar to the Toshiba pen, but I don't feel like I have to grip the pen harder to keep it from slipping away from me, which makes the writing a bit more natural. I understand that's a hugely personal preference though (as I know several expensive traditional ink pens use all metal bodies!).

     
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  2. Yao

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    hello rxcash,

    how is the fan noise of the x20w? is it quiet or loud at times?
     
  3. rcxAsh

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    Under average business and home use (e.g. Word documents, browsing the internet, watching videos), the fan is either completely off or very quiet. However, if you push the CPU to full load for an extended period of time, then the fan is very loud. It almost sounds like a mini jet engine (has a bit of a high-pitched whine to it as opposed to just the sound of air moving). Usually I only experience the fan noise if I am playing a demanding game on the computer (which of course was not what the computer was designed for).
     
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  4. Bitech

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    I just recently learned there are new models 'X20W-E' with 8th gen CPUs! Both Core i5-8350U and i7-8650U have 4 cores/8 threads.

    Strangely this isn't available in the U.S. but is in other countries like Canada and Germany...
     
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    Starlight5 So what if I'm crazy? The best people are.

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    @Bitech it's very nice indeed, but has no trackpoint unlike other Toshiba business-class devices. Removing this feature is simply beyond me. )'=
     
  6. rcxAsh

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    Oh wow, I wish the 8th gen CPU was an option when I bought my X20W-D. Nevertheless, it's been serving me great over the past year. It's been great in tablet mode, as it's light enough to carry around like a tablet. The one thing I miss on it though is that there are no dedicated volume buttons, so when you are in tablet mode, you have to use the on-screen volume control to lower/raise the volume.

    Thunderbolt 3 is really quite neat. With the single port, I connect it to an external GPU and can play some more demanding games or improve the performance of other tasks that benefit from a dedicated GPU.
     
  7. Bitech

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    I've read on notebookcheck.net that the CPU gets throttled to 800 MHz in tablet mode. Does this happen to yours?
     
  8. rcxAsh

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    Oh that's interesting, it seems like it does. I don't have time this week to do any more experimentation, but I did do a simple test using the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility: I ran the stress test and while that was running I switched the X20W between laptop and tablet modes. Whenever I folded it backwards into tablet mode, the CPU frequency got locked to 800 MHz. Then unfolding it back to laptop mode, it went back up 3.5 GHz. I never noticed this before, probably because I don't usually do any demanding workloads in tablet mode, but definitely something to note!
     
  9. rcxAsh

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    Hi again @Bitech I did a bit more testing with my X20W-D. There is a setting in the UEFI called Thermal Alternative Control (or similar, under the Power Management -> BIOS Power Management section). When this setting is disabled, the processor is locked to 800 MHz in tablet mode. When this setting is enabled, the processor is locked to 2.7 GHz in tablet mode.

    It seems by default the setting is disabled, which is probably why anyone reviewing the laptop out of the box without digging deeply into the UEFI settings would have experienced this.

    The description for this setting in the UEFI menu doesn't really say anything about this though. It just says it uses an alternative thermal control mode, not saying what alternative means :p

    Thanks for bringing this to my attention though! I've turned on the setting for myself so I can get a bit better performance in tablet mode. I'm guessing this was to reduce the heat generation and use of the fan when in tablet mode. Usually I prefer a quieter device in tablet mode, so this is ok for me (when I had the Fujitsu T4010D, I usually locked the processor to the lowest clock speed in tablet mode too, using a third-party tool, Notebook Hardware Control back in the day).
     
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