Toshiba Portégé Z20t Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by ile, Nov 15, 2014.

  1. fishdavis

    fishdavis Scribbler - Standard Member

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    if anyone is curious about 3d painting:

    i did some tests with photoshop 3d paint and it is really really slow. reallllllly laggy. forget it
    (testing with a 6-face cube here...)

    substance painter is slowish, better than photoshop but still kind of enough for me not to want to use it on this thing

    3d coat actually paints really fast, I loaded the sample head mesh and it's fine too, so this is probably the best option for people who want to texture paint 3d models (you can sculpt in their 'pixol' mode, but it is fairly laggy). didn't have any issues panning, rotating etc

    sculptris sculpts, but it is slightly laggy (i find it generally slightly laggy compared to zbrush even on a desktop, but this is a bit laggier than that even). free though!

    I bet zbrush will actually run okay since it doesn't rely on GPU but haven't tested this.

    blender 3d paint starts out quite fast and then starts to get laggy over time. looking into this because if it stayed at the level of responsiveness that it has at the start, it would be pretty good. and it IS free after all...
     
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  2. kneehowguys

    kneehowguys Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Has a trackpoint, two batteries, and built in stylus. Still the best detachable design though the new CES dell detachable does have the new processors and an 8 MP rear camera

    Are they not updating this with new processors? Don't see Kaby lake on the purchase options
     
  3. don risotto

    don risotto Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Ok so I just picked up one of these with 8GB of ram and 256GB ssd. Looks like it's the best option for a do everything tablet/laptop with an emphasis on the drawing.

    Any chance my old intuos 3 stylus will work? (ZP-501E)

    pretty sure this is the only thing I can actually order at the moment, apart from toshiba's pen.

    https://buywacom.com.au/bamboo-stylus-feel.html

    This is compatible right?
     
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  4. rirawin

    rirawin Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Just bought one used , cannot wait to try it out. I had the Surface Book and I just hated n-trig despite the device being gorgeous. Thinkpad Yoga was too heavy, and well I wanted something fanless as well. Also had the Helix 2nd gen but it was too top heavy, and well, it was alright but didn't like the screen was too small. Always wanted to try the Z20T out, and now I have a chance, the fact it has tooth on the screen while drawing is going to be awesome.
     
  5. don risotto

    don risotto Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Ok, laptop arrived today. Refurbished unit but might as well be new. Using factory windows 8.1 install. Struggling with windows updates, had to manually install a couple to get everything happening. Very nice bit of hardware, looks, how to say, "functional" with the dock attached. This is good. macbooks are like honey to thieves. Default response with the bamboo feel stylus is reasonable. bit of drift, maybe 2mm max at the edges, no calibration yet. Turned on toshiba eco power setting which basically turns it into a cheap phone. totally gimps multiplier and won't go over 1ghz. Maybe useful if you absolutely have to squeeze as much battery life out of it as you can. Balanced power setting works fine, unit will happily sit at 2.2ghz docked. Trackpad sucks, as reported. Seems to be a driver issue. regularly freezes and misreports input. Mysteriously the trackpoint nub is silky smooth and responsive. Never used one before but I like it already. Hopefully trackpad has fixed drivers but I barely use them anyway.

    Screen is average. Colours are desaturated and not very accurate by default. I can see a kind of "shimmering" in the output, but unlike usual PWM which has a kind of dither pattern or moire, this is more of a fullscreen chroma strobing effect. Not uncomfortable but slightly distracting. This is at low brightness. It's nice and bright, and the matte screen is excellent however.

    I'll report my stylus experiences once I get it working properly.
     
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  6. don risotto

    don risotto Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Windows update foolery resolved, Everything is working fine now, except for the slightly janky touchpad. Got rid of most of the preinstalled programs, which at least uninstall gracefully. Calibrated the screen and it's pretty spot on. Less than a mm out for whole screen. Photoshop experience is so-so, my intuos 3 has better pressure response, but higher jitter. Clip studio paint however, is like a dream. Amazing. Fast too. Played a couple of HD x264 files, looks amazing, screen finish seems to add a bit of "film magic" (random noise :D). I am definitely going to be watching a lot of shows on this. Oh yeah and no my intuos pen doesn't work. Shame.
     
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  7. kneehowguys

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    What software for non art work do you plan on using? I got a Toshiba z20t-b, still working out the OS issues, haven't really tested it

    Thinking of getting Xodo, Onenote, Microsoft Office 2016 and I'm hoping to use the tablet in bed/couch settings maybe with a cold elastogel sheet in case the tablet gets too hot
     
  8. don risotto

    don risotto Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Haven't found it getting too hot tbh. Although I haven't given it a good workout yet. Took me a month last time I used win8.1 to disentangle it from all the crap that microsoft added, except this time I can't just rip it out, I need to get it all working happily. Last time I ended up disabling all of windows pen and touch functionality to get my intuos tablet to work properly. Integration seems better with this inbuilt solution. Haven't had any real problems yet except for the touchpad which I'm going to try and fix tomorrow. A thin sheet of copper with some adhesive plastic on the sensitive bits might make a good heatsink for the cpu, the magnesium case should spread the heat pretty well. Doubt I'll bother unless I'm really keen.

    Software: i use mpc-hc for video playback, works well. Haven't tried onenote but I'll give it a shot. Microsoft office is awful and I never use it but I think it comes preinstalled (haven't opened it, might be trial version). If I need to do any serious stuff I can just remote into my desktop.
     
  9. rirawin

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    Silly question but is there an application like Lenovo System Update which will tell me of updated drivers?. Otherwise how do I know I have up to date drivers.

    Received the Z20T and loving it, I agree the trackpad is awful, I can't seem to select text with the trackpad at all. This isn't an issue with the accupoint which I prefer anyway but it be nice that I actually could.

    Also sound is awful, every time I hear the windows system chime it sounds horrendous.
     
  10. Kumabjorn

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    On their laptops and tablets released in Japan they include a utility that checks for upgraded drivers once every 24 hours or installs them automatically depending on your settings.

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