ThinkPad X1 Yoga 2018 Discussion Thread

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  1. Yao

    Yao Scribbler - Standard Member

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    yes. thanks. its very disappointing. i was expected big things for 3rd gen. i guess we have to wait for 4th gen for a quantum leap of cool stuff.

    I was hoping for the following:

    1. 60 wh battery
    2. 400 nits FHD screen
    3. 2.8 lbs or so
    4. small footprint and reduced size bezels.
     
  2. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    I agree the changes aren't huge, but at least for me they were mostly the right changes. I do think it's weird that the weight has not gone down since the first gen. The first gen X1 Yoga in 2016 was almost 10% lighter than their new 3rd gen! :eek:
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Some pics of the internals from this review by user richk on the official Lenovo forum below. Try doing this with a Surface Book. :D

    X1 Yoga 3rd Gen internals:

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    X1 Yoga 3rd gen; SSD

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  4. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    It seems the configuration with 500 nits HDR display and 16GB RAM will be prohibitively expensive. )'=
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Based on what? The fact that it's extra above the ~$1900 starting price? My guess: top i7 with HDR and 16GB+1TB: $3000. That's before adding $400 for two thunderbolt docks.
     
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    Canabuc Pen Pal - Newbie

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    At that price can get loaded sb2

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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Assuming that my guess of $3000 for the top of the line model is close, yes, users could also get a loaded SB2 13.5" for the same price. Some thoughts on differences for both systems 'loaded' with max specs:

    SB2 13.5" advantages
    - detachable screen. Can be a pro, but makes it a little more cumbersome to flip to presentation/media mode
    - better screen aspect ratio (3:2 vs. 16:9 on the X1Y3)
    - higher resolution (3000x2000 vs. 2560×1440)
    - discete GPU (NVIDIA GTX 1050). This is huge if you need graphics power (gaming, engineering) on the go
    - CPU in screen means cool when using on lap
    - Windows Hello on all models
    - longer stated battery life: 17h vs 12h of the X1Y3 (15h with the FHD screen)
    - better front facing camera (5.0MP vs ~1MP)
    - rear facing camera (8.0MP, autofocus) vs. none on the X1Y3

    X1 Yoga 3rd gen advantages
    - half a pound lighter
    - more compact, no hinge gap
    - TB3 with eGPU support. Allows for hard core number crunching at the desk, lightweight device on the go
    - LTE included for always on connectivity
    - slightly faster memory (LPDDR3-2166 vs 1866)
    - user upgradeable SSD and Wifi. Also means you can keep your data if machine breaks
    - Wacom AES (lower initial activation force)
    - stylus in silo: always charged, and won't damage or get lost
    - Fingerprint scanner
    - trackpoint (I like it, but it's not for everyone)

    It's a close call, both very nice machines.
     
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  8. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @JoeS add user-upgradeable Wi-Fi to X1Y3 adavantages, which may be important in a year or so. Lack of fingerprint scanner would be a definite decisive factor for me personally, simply ridiculous Microsoft decided to skip on it.
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Done. Looking at the differences I think the X1Y3 is the system for me. The SB2 just feels a touch more clumsy: heavier, worse balance ('top heavy'), loose pen, screen that needs to be detached for media mode. The X13Y is lighter, slimmer, has a better balance in laptop mode, and even then has user accessible parts.
     
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    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @JoeS indeed, and now that Lenovo offers a compact TB3 eGPU, GTX 1050 inside SB2 is not much of an argument either, given the advantages of X1Y3 you described.
     
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