ThinkPad X1 Yoga 2018 Discussion Thread

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  1. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    There's a new X1 Yoga in town! Available in January.

    Official product page


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    Comparing this to the 2017 X1 Yoga (2nd gen) it boasts some significant improvements, and some setbacks.

    Better than 2017 model:
    8th gen Intel Core i5/i7 CPUs, integrated UHD Graphics 620
    Brighter screen option: 500 nits, HDR. Finally! Non HDR models still only 270 nits :(
    Faster LPDDR3-2166 memory
    Windows Hello support
    Optional physical shutter for webcam ("Windows Goodbye support" ;))

    Same or similar as 2017 model:
    Weight: 3.08 lbs
    Screen 14", IPS, up to 2560×1440
    Up to 16GB RAM
    Up to 1TB PCIe SSD
    Fibocom L850-GL LTE-A modem
    2x USB Type-C TB3 ports
    2x USB Type-A ports
    1x HDMI port
    Fingerprint sensor
    720p FFC (seems low..)
    Stated battery life: 12h (WQHD LCD) or 15h (FHD LCD)

    Starting price $1889

    Worse than 2017 model: (arguable)
    One fewer USB3 ports
    Major shift: OLED display no longer available :eek: allegedly because of lower battery life
    No more Iris Plus 640 GPU model

    Picture of the insides in post 13.
    Comparison with the Surface Book 2 in post 17.

    Note:
    spec-wise this is very close to the much cheaper ThinkPad Yoga X380.

    Reviews:

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-laptop-of-last-year-with-new-processors-hdr/
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/12246/lenovo-unveils-new-thinkpad-x1-carbon-x1-yoga-laptops
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/laptop-reviews/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-yoga-3rd-gen-review/
    https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-CES-2018/ThinkPad-X1-Yoga-Generation-3-review/m-p/3934729
    https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/8/16862126/lenovo-x1-carbon-yoga-alexa-dolby-vision-hdr
     
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  2. hkklife

    hkklife Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Losing a USB 3.0 port is a huge bummer. They should have kept the exact port config as the 2nd gen models. Or at the very least, dumped that pointless micro Ethernet port and stuck another Type-C port on the right side.

    I've actually never seen an OLED X1 Yoga in the flesh but I have a Note 8 and a Tab S3 and the Super AMOLED screens are to die for. I'd really be in heaven with an HDR-supporting OLED Yoga.

    The 2nd gen Iris 640 model never actually entered production or became available for purchase, did it? So no huge loss there.
    Alexa support is 99.9% useless for me.

    A pretty underwhelming round of upgrades, actually. I might be in the minority but I think the 2016-->2017 improvements were better than this year's.
    Honestly, I'd almost be content to take a 2nd gen model if it had 16GB RAM and was available at a discount.
     
  3. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Personally I'm thrilled! I couldn't bring myself to buy the 2nd gen X1 Yoga because of the soon to be outdated CPU and the feeble 270 nits display. The lack of Windows of Hello was also kind of a downer. They fixed all of these, so I'm happy. Now the only thing that they have to do is drop the price by some 40% and I'm in.. :)
     
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    They didn't bring back the volume rocker that was in gen 1.
    Too bad.
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Agreed. It's a minor thing, but in media mode and in full screen it's kind of a pain to hunt down the volume icon in the system tray.
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Not that anybody asked, but just for fun a comparison of the X1Y3 with my list of non-negotiables from Kuma's compromise thread:

    Must haves: (all covered by the X1Y3)
    - At least 8th gen Core i5, 1TB SSD, 8GB RAM
    - screen: at least 12", 1080p, 350nits, touch screen
    - a backlit keyboard
    - a 3.5mm headphone jack
    - battery life: at least 5h
    - TB3 docking

    Other wishes:
    - External GPU support - yes
    - user serviceable drive - SSD is accessible (slightly tricky, but doable)
    - slim bezels - half yes, but giant lower bezel
    - biometrics for login - yep
    - trackpoint - yep
    - Wacom EAS or EMR in a silo - yes: AES in silo
    - yoga hinge - yep
    - scalloped/contoured keys - yep

    - Eraser on the pen - nope, but can buy separate pen
    - an aspect ratio (way) lower than 16:9 - sadly no
    - weight < 3 lbs - nope, but only 3% over
    - dGPU - nope
    - price <$2000 - hell no, at least not for the 16GB 1TB config I'm sure.. :D

    Pretty great score. Can't wait to own one.
     
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  7. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Do these trackpoint buttons look flatter than before to anyone? Wonder how that will feel.

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  8. Starlight5

    Starlight5 So what if I'm crazy? The best people are.

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    More like definitely yes.
     
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  9. Yao

    Yao Scribbler - Standard Member

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    very disappointed. the FHD non-HDR screen is rated at 270 nits.

    only the new screen is 500 nits. a bit deceptive on lenovo's part here!

    so, for folks who only need FHD for many reasons, still stuck with a dim screen.

    mind as well save money and get a 2nd Generation model at huge discounts. this 3rd gen is not a big improvement.

    battery is still 54 whr and weight has remained same or increased by 0.1 lbs.
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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