ThinkPad X1 Yoga (2016)

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  1. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    Looks like HP is trying to establish the Spectre line as a direct competitor to the Thinkpad Yogas. The X1 Yoga will not be the only new 2-1 to have an OLED display option. And, my guess is that HP will do it for a few hundred bucks less.
     
  2. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Just one disappointment so far: it looks like the displays are going to be 300 nits as opposed to the 400 nits of the TPY12.
     
  3. Marty

    Marty Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    Brightness comparison between AMOLED and LCD rely on different metrics. Basically you are averaging brightness across all possible "picture levels", rather than simply calculating the luminance of the backlight for LCDs.

    In any case, I would hold off dissapointed until seeing it in person.
     
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  4. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    I should have been more clear. Based on the spec sheets posted here we are offered the following options:

    14" WQHD (2560 x 1440) OLED, Touch, 300 nits
    14" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, Touch, 300 nits
    14" WQHD (2560 x 1440) IPS, Anti-Glare, 300 nits

    I'm assuming that they forgot 'touch' for the third one. In any case, even on the IPS displays we're not getting 400 nits.

    Edit: thanks for that link by the way, I wasn't aware of this. For people annotating PDFs most of the screen will be lit and white though, so if I understand the article correctly, that type of user would experience the lower range of the possible screen brightness. And use quite a lot of power as well.
     
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  5. bloodycape

    bloodycape confused Senior Member

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    That maybe so, but in my experience and based on reviews OLE/AMOLED isn't as viewable in direct sunlight as IPS. My last phone was a LG G2 with an IPS display and now have the Nexus 6 with AMOLED, and at the same nit brightness(had to google it) in direct sun light the G2 is more viewable, though I kind of prefer how the N6 renders colors better(G2 tends to have slightly over saturate colors, which is kind of what AMOLED is known for).
     
  6. Marty

    Marty Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    Really? From what I read, AMOLED performs about the same as high-quality IPS screens--which is to say, still not very readable:

     
  7. Marty

    Marty Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    No problem :)

    Actually that user would either get the lower range of brightness OR higher power consumption, but not both.

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    Basically, what is causing the drop-off when the picture tends to white, is the power management lowering output to each TFT controlling the RGB sub-pixels.

    Otherwise, a 100% white picture would actually be at maximum brightness (~700 nits) but consume a ridiculous amount of power.

    I've read that it's possible to tweak power allocation algorithms of AMOLED display controllers, so theoretically you could get a super bright display. Conversely, by adopting a dark UI scheme, it is possible to save power.
     
  8. bloodycape

    bloodycape confused Senior Member

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    Maybe newer AMOLED as changed that, but to be fair the N6 is a bit over a year old and wasn't even using the best AMOLED Samsung offered(partially because samsung keeps the best for themselves).
     
  9. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Hey, yet another use of the snazzy night mode on Drawboard PDF.
     
  10. Marty

    Marty Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    And night mode in e-reading apps, dark UI in CS, and dark themes in Windows...welcome to the dark side. :)
     
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