Thinkpad Tablet 2 - Initial Impressions

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  1. Techgeek32

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    I have used the Samsung 500t, 700t, Vivo Tab 810, and the Sony Duo 11. Out of these 4 I have found the 700t to ink the best with the ASUS and Sony right behind, followed by he 500t. I have used Windows tablets since they were first introduced and can say that any of these are just as good if not better than my old Windows tablets. I don't imagine that the TP2 would be any worse than these and probably similar to the ASUS 810 which offers an excellent Wacom inking experience. I find the 700t to be better simply because of the faster processor and the 1080p display leaves all of the ink looking smooth and not like a pencil drawing effect which will happen on displays with 1366x768 resolution. The Sony is excellent with the N-Trig digitizer but still is very noisy when the stylus tip interacts with the display. That is why I prefer the Wacom digitizers. Very quiet when inking.
     
  2. noxxle

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    CrystalDisk benchmark below. I tested with a single 100mb file. So it might not be an accurate predictor of performance.


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    CrystalDiskMark 3.0.2 (C) 2007-2012 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
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    * MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

    Sequential Read : 76.438 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 32.850 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 78.032 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 27.846 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 8.596 MB/s [ 2098.6 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 2.162 MB/s [ 527.8 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 10.730 MB/s [ 2619.7 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 2.327 MB/s [ 568.1 IOPS]

    Test : 100 MB [C: 48.0% (24.0/50.0 GB)] (x1)
    Date : 2013/01/01 8:44:10
    OS : Windows 8 [6.2 Build 9200] (x86)
     
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    I'm curious about the inking as well. I was very impressed with the Samsung 500T's inking, smooth, good handwriting recognition, not a lot of lag, although otherwise the 500T was a POS. I'd love to hear a comparision, from what I understand the TPT2 doesn't use Wacom, but uses Atmel some other newer company, is that right?
     
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    From some of my research online, including some reseller websites, it seems that the pen digitizer is Wacom, and the touch is Atmel. I am not 100% sure though. Perhaps checking the device list and drivers could confirm this.
     
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    Is the windows key a physical button or is it capacitive? I've seen on a vid of the Asus Vivo tab how annoying a capacitive button is as you accidentally hit it all the time while inking.
     
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    Have you been able to attach the tablet to an external monitor? What is the maximum resolution the tablet can drive?
     
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    It's a physical button, with a sticker on it. The sticker will probably rub off after a month of use.

    The button works well though. I have not once pressed it inadvertently.
     
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    I know it may be a pain but it may be easier to answer most of the folks questions by doing a brief YouTube video so they can see the tablet in action.....again just a suggestion and may save you some time from answering everyone's one off questions ;-).....a picture (video) is worth a thousand words
     
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    I second this, a video would be great! And I would love to see the pen in action, maybe just in paint if you don't have any other sketching software. Thanks for making this thread.
     
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    That is a disaster. We're talking about a ThinkPad here ! Are you absolutely sure about the sticker ? maybe its a bumpy physical button
     
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    Maybe it's like the 500t that has a clear protective sticker on the button which fell off after a day or 2.
     
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    On the Samsung the Win button had a protective clear plastic sticker on it, so maybe try removing it. I'd be surprised if the sticker was meant to stay.
     
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    Looking at TPT2 drivers (Mouse and Keyboard/Atmel Touch Debug Port Driver), the README file says that it installs the "maxTouch I2C Boot Bridge Peripheral Driver", which is described at Touchscreen Controllers - Atmel Corporation.
    IMO that means that Amtel supports both pen and touch until proven otherwise.

    I'm eager to show the inking performance on this device, particularly using OneNote 2013 (using RTM trial, as release preview version is laggy on more powerful machines).
     
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    Thanks for the initial impressions!

    How does the battery life hold up at max. brightness? What does the power manager gauge say? :)
     
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    The Australian TPT2 spec sheet lists a Wacom Digitizer and Pen (link).
     
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    Installed Office 2010. Inking in Word and Onenote is a very pleasant experience. No noticeable lag with narrow inks, slight lag when using a very thick inks. Onenote's transcription is amazingly accurate.

    Inking is at least on par with the youtube vids I've seen of the 500t.

    Haven't done any battery tests yet.
     
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    WEI is in the notes on the first post. I'll look into WPrime.
     
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    How do you guys think this compares to the Dell Latitude 10? I am torn on which one I should get. The Dell has a full SD card slot and a removable battery but it does not have a silo tray. It also has an optional Wacom digitzer. Which one should I order?
     
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