Thinkpad P50 with ThinkPad Pen Pro (Wacom AES)!?

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  1. surfaceproartist

    surfaceproartist Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    When it comes to pen and touch, Windows 10 (especially with the upcoming Anniversary Update) is the only way to go.

    As for your question about the pen, assuming we're all correct that the P70 includes a Wacom Active ES digitizer, you'll want to get the Lenovo Thinkpad Pen Pro.
     
  2. rebelismo

    rebelismo Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Have you gotten your wacom bamboo 2 in 1 pen yet? Mine is on the way, and I'm really curious to see if the P70 will recognize it. Lenovo tech support has not given me any answers related to the drivers or the technology so far.
     
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    Not yet. Wacom doesn't provide any tracking information either.

    But I don't have a P70 or P50 to test, so I don't know that I will be of much help.
     
  4. Shogmaster

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    I keep thinking that you should hold off on this perchase until the Dell Inspiron 17 7778 is tested by one of us next week. I think you are waaay over spending on the Lenovo for what you need to do.

    64GB of RAM for what? Total waste. You are not running a server. You are using a content creation machine. Quad core CPU is nice, I'll admit. But that IMO is the only real practical advantage over the Dell if Dell turns out to sport Wacom AES.

    If you intent to render 3D animation footage, then I'd say get a desktop. If you just want to create 2D and 3D artworks and models on the go, then don't go full retard on this Lenovo that won't even go into a real tablet mode.

    If you insist on P70, then don't go Xeon. Xeon is tweaked for server work. You should just get the i7 Quad Core and save $2000.
     
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    I received a tracking # with my order, but unfortunately it doesn't work :). I'm being optimistic about the P70 working with this pen, but we'll see.
     
  6. rebelismo

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    I wouldn't say that 64GB of RAM and Xeons are a total waste. Lots of RAM and a stable processor, along with a good GPU are the base ingredients for a very good rendering workstation. I understand that everyone has different needs, but both 2d and 3d software will use up A LOT of system resources when the projects get more complex. The funny thing is that projects ALWAYS grow in complexity. As long as the cost vs value is right then I'm all for getting a beefy workstation.
     
  7. Shogmaster

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    If he wants a render machine, i certainly wouldnt recommend a laptop for those duties. And if he is not buying it for render box duties, Xeon and ECC RAM over quad core i7 and normal ddr4 definitely is a waste of money.

    Xeon and ECC is for when you need days and weeks and months of continuous runtime, not for reboot every few days content creation rig.
     
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  8. rebelismo

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    According to my (quick) Cinebench check, the Xeon is a little bit more powerful than both of the i7 offerings. Whether that's worth the extra cash is dependent on the user, but what you said about the continuous Xeon runtime is true. That's what they're sold on: stability. Personally, even though I have a good workstation, I will definitely use the P70 to render on the go. From the beginning I was looking for a machine that could handle a list of software like: Maya, Houdini, Zbrush, Substance, 3dCoat, Resolve, Fusion, After Effects, Manga, PS etc. There are plenty of times where a fast processor and plenty of RAM will make the content creation process a lot less painful. Try Zremeshing an object with millions of polygons on a lower-spec machine. It's the definition of pain :)
     
  9. Shogmaster

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    You definitely need quad core. That's not in question. The question is whether you need to pay for ECC thus Xeon. If the Xeon rig benches 5% faster but costs $1500 more, I would think that's a bad deal. But then again I'm a cheap bastard... :D
     
  10. rebelismo

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    I completely understand what you're saying about cost vs value. Though you might as well replace the "cheap bastard" with smart shopper :). I'm sure that not everyone likes this idea, but I tend to get my laptops as refurbs with warranty. If I'm pricing it out correctly, there was about a thousand dollar price difference. So far so good...Other than Lenovo "not knowing" what pen tech they're using in the P70 :D.
     
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