ThinkPad Helix looks promising

Discussion in 'Lenovo (IBM)' started by JoeS, Oct 21, 2012.

  1. stoneseeker

    stoneseeker Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    It's not just artists that benefit from full voltage CPU's. Engineers, Drafters, and buyers using complex math programs and voice dictation programs all need more CPU power than a ULV can give... there's plenty of more reasons too.

    It's weird that in this era, my T902 is considered too "bulky" by the average consumer, but being 4.1 lbs. and this versatile is LIGHT and MOBILE compared to any laptop I have seen or used with even close to the same power. My last laptop was a 17" Sattelite Pro from Toshiba and it was twice as heavy, monstrous footprint, and only had a fraction of the power of my Fujitsu.

    All things in perspective, I don't understand why the full voltage processors and their slightly larger more robust forms are getting the boot when they are barely a compromise in mobility or ease of use. I think there are plenty of people out there who need the power, but settle with the desktops for their "real"work, and then try their best to use and justify these ULV or android devices as supplementary work tools.
     
  2. czm2000

    czm2000 Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Amen to that.
     
  3. Erik Latranyi

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    The gap is closing. It will not be long before you have the processing strength you need in a low power consumption CPU.
     
  4. arvindsond

    arvindsond Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Yeah this looks great, I was pretty much set on the samsung ativ pro, but to be honest the few reviews that have popped through they've have led me to believe that something better is on the way, and this Helix might just be it.
    Just a couple of questions for me is (not sure if anyone knows the answer to these) but for a digital artist:

    - how many levels of pressure will the pen support
    - and can we use artDock/paintDock or something similar when using software like photoshop and zbrush, because you dont want to keep accessing the keyboard you need some sort of on screen overlay

    Thanks

    Arvind!
     
  5. Steve B

    Steve B Moderator Moderator

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    Pressure sensitivity will be like all the other tablet pc's I would presume, and Artrdock currently only works on a few select Win7 devices, afaik-- the ep121, a thinkpad of some sort, and S7. You're not the only one who would like Artdock on a new Win8 slate. I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up more, as I think it would make these machines fantastically more productive.
     
  6. arvindsond

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    Exactly, I mean what is the point of an ultrabook tablet if you have to keep converting back to the keyboard to use shortcuts on more of the powerful softwares (which is what the ultrabooks are aimed at anyway)
    Really hope someone converts the artDock or makes something similar, would benefit many programs, not just for digital artists

    Arvind!
     
  7. Zeelobby

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    Exactly, Haswell. If rumored performance/power consumption of the new Haswell Intel chips is true than I wouldn't be surprised if Lenovo is waiting to announce that the Helix will be using those chips (maybe during the upcoming CES). Of course that means that it probably won't be available til summer or fall, but if it can add several hours to the device and compete closely with current i5/i7 chips than it would be worth the wait.
     
  8. Zeelobby

    Zeelobby Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    And Boom, right on queue: Leaked chart appears to spill beans on Intel's Haswell desktop CPU range

    Looks like some pretty solid chips, will have to see what their performance is, but I have high hopes that powerful low-powered alternatives to current ULV chips will be on the way soon.
     
  9. Bloody Nokia Adept

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    There is a User's Guide leaked at Lenovo Chinese site http://webdoc.lenovo.com.cn/lenovow...ad X1 Helix 和ThinkPad X1 Helix 3G用户指南V1.0.pdf

    It says:
     
  10. digitallysane

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    So from the PDF I get that this Helix thing is the succesor to X1, not to the X2x0 line.
     
  11. Zeelobby

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    Nice. It really irks me that all of these devices only have ~12" screens. Do you think the next year will bring some 13"+ devices? Also, do you think Lenovo will allow expandable memory? I would need 8GB min. I really want this to be my next device, but I don't want to compromise.
     
  12. tabletartist4d

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    nice find, I cant wait for the next couple weeks to pass so i can see what all i can really choose from, hopefully.. Im really getting sick of waiting. From what i can tell on the PDF the slate has an extra battery in the dock and only comes with 4gb of ram option. Hopefully thats not the case. If it is, then that would put the kupa ultranote ahead of the helix.

    Another thing i noticed is it seems to have done away with the flash on the rear camera that the early pictures had. The pdf also didnt mention wacom, and that slightly worries me. It looks the same as the S-pen and the kupa ultranote looks to use the same tech, but for some reason most of these makers arent mentioning the actual technology behind their digitizer.
     
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  13. Bloody Nokia Adept

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    You know, I want this thing badly too :rolleyes:

    Regarding size: to be honest, even 11.6" seems a little too big for me and 10.1" is a real hot spot for a tablet -- its not that small nor big and fits comfortably in your hands/bag.

    Regarding memory: I bet it will be soldered into motherboard much like X1C but, hopefully, much like X1C there will be a separate configuration with 8 gigs of RAM.
     
  14. Bloody Nokia Adept

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    Have you tried Yoga 13? It's really-really big'n'heavy! Personally, that big tablet is not for me.

    If I want more screen estate then external monitor would help a lot. But on the road anything bigger than 12" is not practical.
     
  15. Zeelobby

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    Yea, I guess I was just really interested in a 13" screen. The extra real-state would be nice for drawing/sketching.
     
  16. rzp2003

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    there are Fujitsu 920 and thinkpad X230 that are close to 13", with regular voltage cpu and a lot of RAM. Actually X230 can be found less than $1k now.
     
  17. sethk

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    Ugh. 4GB? I can't believe no one wants to build a 1080p pen device with more than 4GB. I was pinning my hopes on this device, I really hope they do it. Without the option of 8GB, I would probably go with the Surface Pro.
     
  18. phawker

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    Looks like the Thinkpad Helix has hit the FCC. Maybe it will make it to North America after all? Looks like AT&T only if you want the LTE version.

    Thinkpad Helix Swings Through the FCC
     
  19. e-schreiber

    e-schreiber ƒ(x) / fashion Senior Member

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    This site says that the Helix will be unveiled at CES.

    By the way, what happens to the connecting part on the keyboard after you detach the tablet? Does it stay up like that, exposed and with protruding hooks? If so, the Helix is the re-incarnation of the TC-1100. I wonder why that part on the keyboard is so elaborate? Which kind of voodoo will it do besides grasping the device? It somehow reminds me of the new "Transformers" designs from the movies.


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  20. ibmthink

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    I think the clue about the connecting part is the ability to do this:
    Helix1.jpg Helix2.jpg
     

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