The HP Spectre x2 12 (2015) Discussion Thread

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  1. sonichedgehog360

    sonichedgehog360 Editor-in-Chief of TechAndTiny Senior Member

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    What with all the excitement from the Microsoft Windows 10 hardware event, the HP Spectre went under much of our radar. It looks to be quite impressive, however, with an optional Wacom stylus, 8 mm thickness, LTE and, if these early numbers paint an accurate picture, Surface Pro 3-level performance sans the fan. Between the Lenovo MIIX 700 and Surface Pro 4, this Spectre 12 X2 is on my current list of tablets I am seriously considering for purchase.

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    Official product page:
    http://www.hp.com/go/spectrex2

    Official specifications sheets:
    http://www.hp.com/sbso/hpinfo/newsroom/Holiday2015PCs/HPSpectre12a001dxx2Detachable.pdf
    http://www.hp.com/sbso/hpinfo/newsroom/Holiday2015PCs/HPSpectre12a002dxx2Detachable.pdf

    Official press release:
    http://www8.hp.com/us/en/hp-news/press-release.html?id=2098623#.VhXZGjZdE2x

    PC World hands-on article (must-read!): http://www.pcworld.com/article/2987...erformance-without-the-surface-pro-price.html

    Preliminary Geekbench 3 numbers, with a cross comparison to the Surface Pro 3. Note: This is the entry level Spectre with m3-6y30 versus the mid-tier Surface Pro 3 with i5-4300U. I imagine the model with m7-6y75 should easily meet or exceed the Surface Pro 3 in performance:
    http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/3703979?baseline=3404121
     
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    bloodycape Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    It looks pretty nice, and I wonder how the display compares to the Miix(which really should have been a thinkpad model) and Surface Pro 4. It doesn't look it's 4:3 aspect ratio, does it? Also, it is wacom es or emr?
     
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    sonichedgehog360 Editor-in-Chief of TechAndTiny Senior Member

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    No word yet on the exact Wacom technology. I will upload the product page that accidentally went online last week to the title page. As for the screen resolution, it is 1920x1280. EDIT: The PC World article says 1920x1280. The leaked product page specs in the PDF shows 1920x1080. Hopefully, HP made a typo. I can get by with 16:9, but 3:2 is optimal.
     
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    thatcomicsguy Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    That looks like a 1920 x 1280 screen to me. Those 200 extra pixels along the bottom are really noticeable as compared to a 1080p screen. I could work on a screen like that quite happily, I think.

    Honestly, this is the first windows 10 portable which hasn't been a mean-spirited joke (where N-Trig is the punch line).

    -Assuming Wacom's AES lives up to the promise. We STILL don't really know if it does or not.

    Either way, this machine looks quite promising!
     
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    Curious how sturdy and resistant that hinge-kickstand is.

    I'm excited to see all these different options. Seems like all the OEMs jump on the Surface reference design bandwagon at the same time.

    Wacom AES, yes?
     
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    so 1920 x 1280 makes it 16:10?
     
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    sonichedgehog360 Editor-in-Chief of TechAndTiny Senior Member

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    Good catch! It is actually 3:2 if you follow the math by dividing the height and width pixel dimensions. So, it is the same screen ratio as the Surface Pro 3 and 4 and the Lenovo MIIX 700. This makes this even more of a worthwhile purchase for me since it has this easy to use and golden ratio-esque beautiful shape. For the Spectre X2's resolution, 1920 divided by 1280 comes to 1.5, which is the equivalent decimal ratio to 3:2. In my quick glancing, I had mistaken this resolution for 1920 by 1200, which is the 16:10 resolution that is also common for larger devices such as these.
     
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    sonichedgehog360 Editor-in-Chief of TechAndTiny Senior Member

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    It's official! It's 1920 by 1280, or 3:2. HP themselves had it wrong when they first posted that product page. Oh, and it even has LTE!

    http://www.hp.com/sbso/hpinfo/newsroom/Holiday2015PCs/HPSpectre12a002dxx2Detachable.pdf

    http://www.hp.com/sbso/hpinfo/newsroom/Holiday2015PCs/HPSpectre12a001dxx2Detachable.pdf

    The LTE apparently comes standard.
    "LTE with Verizon comes standard with no WiFi-only version just yet."

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Spe...-built-in-stainless-steel-stand.151287.0.html
     
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    Damn. I'm really liking this device the more I look at it...

    The only trouble is.., I've found that when I have a choice, I opt for carrying the bigger screened one around with me. -What if I find myself somewhere that I want to do serious work? It happens frequently enough, and that makes a just-for-sketching device a wasted opportunity.

    -I went through two Toshiba Portege 12" devices, (an M200 and an M400), and a 12" HP 2740p with a slate battery on it for long life, -they were all nice machines. I especially liked the M200. -I thought, "You know, for sketching and noodling around. They pack up easy, fit into the nice laptop pouch in my backpack. Super portable!"

    But I found that these smaller, lighter computers just got left home all the time in favor of my ridiculous 14" 4:3 beast, despite its near-to-zero battery life and awkward heft. The fact of the matter is that I'll only designate one device as my active duty carry arounder; it becomes my away-from-the-studio flag ship, and I want it to be able to do the damned job. Weight, horse power and battery life have consistently been things I'm willing to sacrifice for a nice big screen.

    Now, the Specter offers more pixels. 1920 x 1280 beats my current 1400 x 1050 hands down. I've never tried working on a smaller screen with a higher resolution. That might make a difference. I'd like to try. But logic says, "Nope. Your hands are a fixed size, buddy boy! There's a sweet spot working size, and 12 inches ain't it. (Neither is 14 inches if we're being perfectly honest, but it's a lot damned closer)."

    I've tried weenie 12" screens three times now, and I just don't have the patience for screwing around with them anymore.

    A 15" 3:2 screen, or even a 14.5" one, would make the Specter irresistible. But 12"..?

    Forget it.
     
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    At 3:2 fanless core M and Wacom pen, this thing looks great.
     
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