Surface Studio Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Microsoft' started by kvoram, Oct 26, 2016.

  1. wataru

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    I solved this by using the Media Creation Tool, which skips the upgrading process. Boot time is now a more acceptable 3 to 4 minutes. The low disk benchmark score stays the same. But boot time is so much better.

    To summarize, do not trust the built-in 'factory reset' or the recovery image. I'd urge Microsoft to release a clean 1709 recovery image instead of the current 1703 recovery image. The 1703 image boots in 1 min, but degrades to 10~20min when upgraded to 1709. The Media Creation Tool directly installs 1709, which seems to solve the ridiculous boot time issue (fingers crossed).

    And Microsoft should test 1709 on slower platform such as the Studio before releasing their software. Without a full SSD, I had to turn off most services for the computer to boot reasonably, or the computer is unusable. Without a SSD, I don't think this computer is designed to handle so many disk crunching background services, and did the Windows team work with the Surface team to take that into consideration?

    Finally, as a comparison, my Surface Pro (M3) boots in 1min, as is my decade old PC that is equipped with a budget SSD. And they are all upgraded to 1709 through Windows Update instead of coming off a fresh install.

    -p.s. for the uninformed, my 'boot time' means booting from complete shutdown to below 100% disk usage.
     
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  2. wataru

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    The SSD is actually working - I can corroborate that by timing copying of a 3.2 Gb file within the same drive - which only takes a second or two to finish. My guess is that a firmware update changes the behavior how the disk interact with disk benchmark software so the SSD is invisible when running benchmark. I haven't tested copying small files so I cannot comment the real world random read/write performance.

    The firmware update also changes how the SSD is seen inside Intel Rapid Storage Software. For one, the latest Intel RST won't install. I could still run an old version RST software that used to be able to inspect and change the SSD behavior (at least on my first Studio), but that old version software now tells me that the SSD is not being used, which is bizarre given that it is apparently being used (for sequential read/write at least).

    Here are some bonus images from Intel RST saying that the SSD in my Studio is not in acceleration/cache mode.

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  3. wataru

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    @Azzart , well, your suspicion was correct! The acceleration is not even on for a brand new unit! (how can you even trust MS these days?)

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    This is what happens after turning on the acceleration. Boot time is now a solid 1min.
     
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