Surface Pro 7

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  1. darkmagistric

    darkmagistric Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Although it will be pathetic as well....I opted for Tragic because it just kind of is....specifically for us the Tablet PC/Penabled niche. EMR is still quite rare beyond Wacom and Samsung (and with Samsung that's not even a guarantee anymore given the MPP Notebook 9 Pro.) Although we have more penabled options then ever before....half of them are bottom of the Barrel Pro 3 era Ntrig/MPP. Even super premium devices like the $3000 Asus Zen Pro Duo opted for MPP. As is the current Surface Pro 5/6 Pen is far superior to both the Pro 3 & 4 pens....and if the Pro 7 unveils an even better pen....that magnetically charges and does all sorts of other stuff......not counting AES devices........Choosing the Pro 7 would be a no-brainer given vast superiority of its pen over MPP. So while that's certainly a reason to stick with a Surface......not having thunderbolt 3.....in 2019 is such a trade off. The data transfer speeds are faster, and a thunderbolt 3 connection can push two 4K monitors over USB-C's one, as well as offer external GPU support. Even if its not a feature you'd ever use.....its nice knowing you have the option to use it if you want down the line. Just having that door unlocked gives the purchase additional value. And its all underscored by them not having a valid reason to keep it omited. Literally every other company is able to put Thunderbolt 3 on their devices....if their Surface Charger takes up so many PCI-lanes to prevent Microsoft from doing it......then they need to ditch that damn charger.
     
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    <<...So while that's certainly a reason to stick with a Surface......not having thunderbolt 3.....in 2019 is such a trade off...>>

    ...One question that bears thinking about: Is there some reason, other than just not wanting to use the PCI lanes, why Microsoft might not be able to implement TB3?
     
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    darkmagistric Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    That's the only excuse they've given in the past........there is also the matter of paying royalties to Intel and having a separate controller chip integrated into the chipset.... .....but again....every other company can make this work.........and with the Ice Lake Chips having Thunderbolt 3 built right in to the SOC....they really have no reason not to.

    Even the lack of regular USB-C makes no sense. Like for the Laptop 1....they had a USB-C prototype for it....years ago....photos of it leaked....and they did integrated USB-C into the Studio, Go, and Book 2.....so last October when they left the Pro 6 and Laptop 2 without USB-C was nonsensical. And the only excuse they gave for that was not wanting to get rid of the Type A port......which they could have still kept......and still give us USB-C. Given the display port overlay standard....it would have been the simplest thing to swap out the mini-display port.
     
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  4. sonichedgehog360

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    One extremely important reason they should not overlook is Thunderbolt 3 is USB 4, which is the future of USB! If they want to look even more like the technological dinosaur that is stuck in the past, they can continue their adamant resistance to adopting USB 4 while even entry-level devices start adopting it over the next couple years. You can only imagine how their devices will age and really show it thanks to their lack of foresight and vision when even entry-level products will have something that everyone else in the industry were mindful enough to include for several years already. Now, speaking of Surface Connect, there is nothing wrong with maybe one or two proprietary connectors such as the Surface keyboard connection but even that has its limitations since it keeps third parties from contributing with improvements that Microsoft is too blind to see. As we all know from painful lessons in history, whenever Microsoft has gotten terribly obsessed with a proprietary standard of one form or another, they have lost by country mile to the competition. All Surface Connect has led to is massively overpriced, overrated docks that Microsoft charges a mint for as a pointless upsell accessory. I would hope if circumstances pushed them into a corner and forced them to decide between either Surface Connect or USB 4, they would rip the albatross, Surface Connect, from off their neck in favor of the freedom of a far more robust, open connection standard.
     
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  5. dstrauss

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    None that are valid...
     
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