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  1. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops My friends call me Jeff Senior Member

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    You're right Jim. I'll probably wait to 4th of July; just didn't want you all to think I was a scardy cat !

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    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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    <<...I had a water bottle leaking in my bag yesterday and the AC adapter was flooded entirely... Any advice?...>>

    Regarding a recent problem with a water-logged AC adapter, and the recommendation to put it in a container of rice:

    http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/14/9326035/can-rice-actually-save-your-wet-phone

    "In the experimental measurements, slightly more water was lost to evaporation simply by leaving the waterlogged device in an open room than by enclosing it in a container of rice..."

    Bottom line is it's an urban myth...

    (Courtesy of theVerge site)
     
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    lovelaptops My friends call me Jeff Senior Member

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    This, not rice, is proven to help. The Verge article, like many of theirs, has shoddy, incomplete research. Also they quoted a man named Beineke, same name as the tax cheat on Breaking Bad, lol

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    Kumabjorn ***** is back Senior Member

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    Interesting, I once dropped a phone in water and put it in a bag with rice and left it in the window sill, and since the phone was revived I swear by the method. Maybe it was the window sill.

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    dellaster Non-Creative Plebe Senior Member

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    It's not saying that rice doesn't work, it's saying that rice doesn't work any better than leaving it out in the open air of a room, and probably not as well. (Unless you live in a sauna or something!)

    Hm, scoopable cat litter makes sense as an alternative. But I bet my cat would play with the phone, and chew it. My Lumia 920 has her bite marks already on one corner. :p
     
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    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    There is a Phd dissertation here I suspect. Any mariner knows that rice in a salt shaker keeps salt from clumping. It seems a natural assumption that it would make a good desiccant and help remove moisture inside a phone where air is not likely to exchange easily. While I don't really consider the Verge article definitive, it's good enough to make me rethink recommending the rice trick unless I know it works.
     
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    seeyar Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Rice is produced by drying paddy. Therefore, fresh dry rice must act as a desiccant somewhat like silica gel. Once exposed to moisture for enough time it will get re-hydrated and lose activity. It might be possible to reactivate it by drying again or frying in a pan. Rice powder may be more efficient in this respect due to increased surface area. Don't know somebody has quantified these things.
     
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    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    My thoughts exactly when I read the, so called, study. How long had his Uncle Ben's box been open in his pantry at home? Only a fresh-package of rice would work to wick moisture.
     
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    Oh hai! 10 days after charger death, it came back to life after I'd mostly given up on it and just sullenly occasionally tried hooking it up. It spent the last 6 just sitting there in air. So add that to your scientific evidence of either way.

    I've used rice in the past with seemingly good results. I do feel that it helps things dry faster than some other case scenarios, but attribute it no special powers. I mean if I could leave the phone sitting out in warm summer air with a fan going on it, that would be great too...but someone would probably just walk up and take it!
     
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    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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    <<...10 days after charger death, it came back to life...>>

    ...I'm not surprised. As far as rice is concerned, simply keeping a wet device gently warmed and allowing air to circulate is both economical and un-wasteful! It has the advantage that the volume of air is (essentially) unlimited...
     
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