Surface Laptop 2/3/4 Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Microsoft' started by JoeS, May 2, 2017.

  1. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    My apologies to all for beating this dead horse - I understand where you are both coming from and my own shortcomings in the technical world. For me it is like so many lawyers I've faced over the years that redefine the length of a first down depending upon whether they are a running or passing team...
     
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  2. Steve S

    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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    <<...that reviewer isn't following your definition of reference since he is using it against all other reviewed devices...>>

    I can't correct them; I can only correct you... :rolleyes:

    (And thanks to Kumabjorn for her insightful comment)
     
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  3. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    I stand corrected - well, not really, but I had to at least say it - :p
     
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  4. daddyfish

    daddyfish Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    I was a bit surprised by the following video that shows that the older Surface Laptop 4 Ryzen 4980u cpu scores higher in benchmark Cinebench (and tiny bit faster in Firefox compile) compared to the newer Ryzen 5700u (in a 15" HP Envy x360 laptop). At 4:55:
    Maybe also related to cooling differences besides optimization? I knew that performance was better than Ryzen 4700u but even outperforming some 5700u laptops is pretty impressive I think.
     
  5. FZelle

    FZelle Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Despide the 5xxx name, that ryzen 5700u is still a Zen2 CPU.
    Only 5600u and 5800U are Zen3
     
  6. daddyfish

    daddyfish Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    , I have not followed it close enough but I do remember reading that there is some performance difference between the Ryzen 5000u series and Ryzen 4000u series (obviously not as big as between 4000u series and 3000u series considering the lower nm process). It is not solely a rebranding of the 4700u.

    Here I found a table from AMD (so take it with a grain of salt, but still shows a clear difference):
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  7. FZelle

    FZelle Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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  8. daddyfish

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    , I was not taking about single core but multi core performance. I believe the 5700u has same amount of cores but double the amount of threads.
     
  9. FZelle

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    My bad. I thought that the 4700 had, as the 4750, 8/16 cores/threads.
     
  10. yodamiked

    yodamiked Do or do not. There is no try.

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    Considering picking up the Surface Laptop 4 for my wife. Was curious if anyone has had any experience upgrading the SSD on one of these. Apparently it’s doable (and not overly difficult) but would be grateful for any first hand experience. It’s either one of these or going for the 14” MacBook Pro when it gets announced/releases.
     
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