Surface Go

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  1. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    My blood runs cold by the advent of "apps" in the modern mobile world over true "Applications." I realize Office is a gargantuan mess with millions of lines of code in it (isn't Hammurabi in there somewhere), but deprecating features always depends upon whose ox gets gored (by the parts left out). Perhaps in the 10" format MS will be able to convince me otherwise, and I "know" there is stuff in there that no one may ever use again, but I want to decide for myself.

    PLUS - I do not want MS (or any vendor) telling me I HAVE TO USE THE CLOUD FOR STORAGE - ever (even if I choose to do so, then it is my choice on my terms).
     
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  2. cmergel

    cmergel DBA by trade.

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    @dstrauss, the inking in the OneNote (W10 App) is better. Enough of a difference for me to try and use this more... I just have some notebooks that aren't in the cloud and I don't want them in the cloud, which has been what is holding me back from using. Also, the O2K16 version seems so much more intuitive to me... I am just having to try to bend this to fit into my workflow rather than the tablet fitting into my workflow...

    Microsoft needs to fix this inking\writing thing on this device. It is the weakest point of this tablet in my opinion. inexcusable...
     
  3. darkmagistric

    darkmagistric Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    The Artist community would have a very different reaction to the results. Here's a little test I did.....Comparing all three of my Pens (Pro 4, Ink, nSP) with the Go in Clip Studio Paint....against my Galaxy Book 10.6 with the Zbook X2 Pen. For the sake of the test I just traced a photo to better illustrate the point.

    The Galaxy Book is the one on the far right......Night and Day difference between the Go and Galaxy Book for Art Performance.

    test pen3.jpg
     
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  4. dellaster

    dellaster Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Wow! Even I can see that they're not in the same league, and I haven't an artistic bone in my body.
     
  5. Bishop

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    Once again, I am following Bronsky.
     
  6. jnjroach

    jnjroach Technology Strategist Super Moderator

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    My lame attempt using OneNote UWP with the pencil on the Surface Go....
     
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  7. djas

    djas Graffiti User

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    I need to test the SG's inking personally before making the proposal for corporate's leasing. This inking issue has me worried because it negates the point for getting the unit as a digital notepad when by users' accounts, the inking is bad.

    I, via our IT, has requested our vendor to loan both a SG & GB10 for trial. At this point, I'm leaning more towards the GB10 due to Wacom. Let's see. :)
     
  8. Kumabjorn

    Kumabjorn ***** is back Senior Member

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    Ok, I admit it, I'm a bit confused.

    Fish hooks.

    I get that they are a problem if you are economically dependent on what you create on the screen. That it gets to the core of a digital artist's sensitive soul is self evident. You want to hand over a perfect creation and fish hooks is something you can't control. I completely get it.

    But note takers?
    What? Are you standing on street corners trying to peddle your notes to strangers passing by? If you enlarge the note it is visible, but for a standard size note on a tablet (we aren't talking Surface Studio here) you kind of have to squint to detect them. Is that seriously a problem? And if you have to do a presentation, is your audience sitting searching for fish hooks? If that is the case you have deeper issues in how you conduct a presentation. And if you claim problems reading your own notes because of fish hooks it is time to go back to Elementary and retake Mrs. Foster's class in cursive style.

    Rant over.
     
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  9. surfaceproartist

    surfaceproartist Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    This may not be a serious drawback to notetakers. I'm not one, so I can't say for sure.

    But this is a reproducible inking error that will definitely interfere with the legibility of block handwriting (if you care about such things).

    Diagonal jitter is also very bad compared to recent Surfaces.
     
  10. Kumabjorn

    Kumabjorn ***** is back Senior Member

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    As in you aren't able to read your own notes?
    Very few of us take notes for other people, but only to supplement our own mediocre memory. As long as I know what the note says I'm reasonably content. Would it be nice if it was prettier? I suppose, but it's not like I'm getting my knickers in a bunch over it.
    And as I said, unless I squint I can't notice them, but yes, admittedly they are there. And I completely get that it will be an issue for someone in your profession. That is why you and your colleagues depend on professional equipment to produce a professional job and not $ 400 dinky toys.
     
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