Surface Go

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  1. djas

    djas Graffiti User

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    @dstrauss :

    "All of this glee with the SG has made me double down on my GB12 full time - and it is so much more convenient than the SB2. The inking in OneNote 16 and Adobe Acrobat DC has been great I'm liking it more each time I open it up. Can't wait to see what the successor can dowhile pondering the SG LTE route"

    Hmm, I wonder: Take a Note series phone, paired it with either a GB10 or 12. Both uses Wacom EMR. Hmm. I'm liking this idea. Very much liking this idea.
     
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  3. cmergel

    cmergel DBA by trade.

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    I love the size, feel, and performance of this awesome device, but with the horrible inking\writing on this, I want to frisbee this across the room. I just went through a reset\refresh of the unit, installed o365 same issue, uninstalled and installed office 2016, same issue. I tried the SP4 pen and it is a little better, but far from even the Surface 3 inking. The new Surface Stylus is horrible. As Bronsky noted, it reminds me of the HP Slate 500. And the inking never got better with that device.

    At the end of the week this is going back to Microsoft. Disappointed...
    I'll go back to the S3 as my note taking\companion device....
     
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    sonichedgehog360 AKA Hifihedgehog Senior Member

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    Try Wacom's Bamboo Ink which is N-Trig/Microsoft Pen Protocol compatible in store at your local Best Buy. Switching to MPP mode is as simple as pressing and holding both side buttons for two seconds. Even without tilt, I prefer the pressure curve and initial activation force. This is a major reason why I sold off my Surface Pro 4 pens and I got this Wacom one instead. As always, this is all just my humble opinion and your mileage may vary.
     
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    I second this recommendation!


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    sonichedgehog360 AKA Hifihedgehog Senior Member

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    Out of curiosity, did you get a chance to try the Go with the Bamboo Ink? I should have grabbed one from the floor or brought mine, but was kind of pressed for time. I am curious to see if the inking experience improves at all with it.
     
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    surfaceproartist Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Yes, the Bamboo Ink is night and day vs. either Surface Pen. Only negligible amount of fish hooks on vertical strokes vs. nearly 100%.
     
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  8. cmergel

    cmergel DBA by trade.

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    Hmmm. I think I will have to try that stylus. I am disappointed the fact that their own stylus’s aren’t working....
     
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    sonichedgehog360 AKA Hifihedgehog Senior Member

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    This is actually hilarious come to think of it. So is their G5 chipset in the more premium Surfaces just an overhyped anti-fish hook post processing chipset as a stopgap for their own fundamentally flawed Surface Pens? Now, I know this sounds crazy and all so hear me out because it would seem to be the case the more I think about it. I mean, the Surface 3 has no problems like this, but it has only 256 pressure levels making it a bit more unlikely to detect the lighter pressure levels where the fish hooks happen.

    So here is the hypothesis to muse over: maybe it was the fact the later Surface Pro 4 and later models added more pressure levels in their digitizers which, in turn, revealed a fundamental flaw in the Surface Pen. This flaw could be the nib actually get stuck ever so slightly at lower, previously undetected pressure levels which results in these fish hooks.

    In turn, this may have necessitated a chipset to fix the flaw. Of course, they gave it a fancy name to make it look cool and high tech to the masses including even the spec geeks to make it look like they went above and beyond to make things better since the digitizer got its own dedicated chipset. But maybe, just maybe, in reality, the chipset is nothing fancy at all except a Band-Aid, PR-sanitized fix to ensure the pen experience did not get worse than the previous generation from the fish hooks we are now seeing on a non-equipped Surface.

    Maybe if I were your friendly neighborhood WalkingCat or a fly on the wall in Building 87 when such design problems were being openly discussed and tackled for a then upcoming Surface Pro 4, I could have heard this one for myself and known once and for all if this were true or not. You decide.
     
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  10. Steve B

    Steve B Moderator Moderator

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    I admit, I too (despite really lovely build quality) was quite disappointed in the inking experience when I went to the store. Nothing sexy or smooth about it at all. No fancier (IMO) than my old Thinkpad 14s gen1 AES (how’s that for a mouthful?). Definitely not compared to inking on the SB2, or the iPad.

    So I should be able to take my Bamboo Ink pen (the black triangular one that inks so we’ll on the TY4), press the two buttons together at the same time (while pressing the screen with too?), and get this improved inking experience in the store with a floor model? But with it I lose tilt?

    I admit, I had sort of hoped I’d get the inking I got on the SB2 with the Go, including tilt, just in a smaller portable footprint. I was considering upgrading to the android Samsung S3, just as a portable inker, because of the 9.7” 4:3 screen and the Wacom pen, but the Go is so much more powerful. But as an inking device it seemed to fall pretty short comparatively.
     
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