Surface Go

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  1. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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  2. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    Welcome, however momentarily, to the club.
     
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  3. Marty

    Marty Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    That was very interesting background info, but what about the perspective from the OEMs, in your opinion?

    (Or to put in layman's terms, is that a "yes" or "no" to my question? :p)
     
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    desertlap Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Yes,
    That must be the "engineer needs to justify a new expense " part of me showing, why answer in one word when you can provide paragraphs...:p
     
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    Best of luck on your decision.

    I wanted to share a Frasier episode, Door Jam, that I think illustrates the dilemma.

    The setup is that Frasier gets a piece of mail from his neighbor. He and Niles can't tell what it is for, but they know it is for something "exclusive". When they visit the address, they figure out it is a spa. They impersonate Frasier's neighbor and gain admittance to the spa. They love it.


    Unfortunately, as they are checking out, they realize that they are only at the "Silver Level" and they see someone else get into the "Gold Level". Now they are dissatisfied and try to find a way to get to the Gold Level. Roz (Frasier's producer) knows someone and gets them into the Gold Level. And you can guess what happens next...


    ...they are happy... until... they see another door. Frasier makes a very wise comment about always trying to get to the next level...


     
  6. Shogmaster

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    That 4415Y... Just how bad is Intel's 14nm yields that lower bin of dual core U/Y CPU ends up being cheaper than Gemini Lake based Celeron or Pentium Silver chips? I ask this bc the 4415Y scores less than something like N4100 and certainly N5000, even in single thread scores!

    Anyone here miffed that their new Surface Go is weaker than some $250 laptop with N4100 Celeron?

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  7. Mike1111

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    I am testing several rugged tablets and a Surface go this week for packaging with a database software package of mine and in testing the Go 4415Y versus an N4200, the Go CPU is faster in real life. An example running a processor intensive task in my database; Go 2m 1s, N4200 tablet 2m 20s, i7-6500U 1m 38s. The GPU test is a little different, a test redrawing a complex map in GIS software; Go 2.0s, N4200 tablet 1.7s, i7-6500U 1.2s, but the N4200 tablet is a 7 inch 1280x800 pixel display so the slower Go graphics is likely related to more pixels.
     
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    Is the N4200 device using eMMC or SSD? I ask bc database test sounds like it might leverage storage situation.
     
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  9. Mike1111

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    The DT372AP tablet I am testing with the N4200 CPU has a 256 SSD, Samsung NVMe PCIe SSD. Both have 8 GB ram so are configured similarly. I read specs on 4415Y vs N4200 and walked away thinking the N4200 should be faster, but then read real benchmarks where the 4415Y showed better performance. My testing does show the 4415Y performs better. I know these are different devices and other things do impact performance other than CPU, but they are very similarly configured and the 4415Y Go does well compared to the N4200.
     
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  10. DRTigerlilly

    DRTigerlilly Tablet Lead Mod (Retired) Super Moderator

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    I definitely feel you on your analysis about the majority of us qualifying as power users and the industry's perspective of the devices only having to be *enough* this is the whole ethos of Microsoft moving to Ntrig/MPP IMHO...MPP works well enough, and the average consumer who hasn't experienced anything else will be satisfied with the experience.
     
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