Surface Book Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Microsoft' started by DRTigerlilly, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. Dungeoness Claw

    Dungeoness Claw Pen Pal - Newbie

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    When you play with the SB, did the opening angle bothered you while you standing up and the SB on the table?
     
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    I did test this a few days ago and noticed it didnt go back super far. I would say about the same as my macbook pro. It was usable standing but I dont see myself doing that at all. So no I wouldnt say it bothered me but I really cant think of a situation where this would be necessary. I couldnt imagine that position being good for your back. Do you use it that way often? Just curious of the scenario.
     
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  3. Dungeoness Claw

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    Thanks for the information. Thats very useful.
    Personally, i do a lot of presentations while standing up with the computer on the desk.
    I am also attending conferences often so lapability is important. If it does have an angle of 110 degrees which is the same as the surface pro 1 on kick stand mode, it can hardly be used comfortably on lap.
     
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    Well, I was torn but decided to cancel my SB order for now. I think the reality set in and I realized I was paying $3,000 for something I didn't even know what all the components were (dGPU).

    Lenovo appears to have launched a dead ringer for the 460 (Best Buy exclusive TPY 14 model with stylus and 2GB DGPU nVidia 940m). The only thing I didn't like about my last TPY 14 was it didn't have a stylus. Plus if Lenovo had gotten their crap together, I'd have already bought a 460.

    So I'm gonna hang with that for a while. At less than half the cost ($999 +upgrades) I really don't have anything to lose. By the spring maybe prices will have normalized a bit too on the SB.

    Plus when you consider the only main performance difference (that's important to me) is an i5 Skylake in the TPY 14 (which has been rated with performance similar to an i7 Haswell) but with a 2GB dGPU its a great value.

    Can't wait to be jealous and read the feedback from all you early SB owners. Still very exciting.
     
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    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    Great points - we all need to remember that MS wants to be BMW (or at least a Lexus) to Apple's Mercedes.

    Plasma=Betamax; unfortunately it happens all the time in tech...


    Lisa - just wanted to thank you for all the great reviews you do!
     
  6. Mesosphere

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    Yea, luckily my most recent TV upgrade cycle came the year before the last manufacturers axed the technology. Hopefully in ~3+ years when it is time for another TV upgrade OLED TVs will be able to affordably pick up where Plasma left off.
     
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    You're welcome and thanks :)
     
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    I promise there was a point to the post :D. The reason why I mentioned the GPU (CUDA) in terms of 2d is because one of my favorite painting programs utilizes it. GPU acceleration is being implemented in a lot of applications nowadays so I believe it's a very important feature. In any case, if you like working with painterly art software, check out PaintStorm. In my opinion its like a cross between Painter and Clip Paint. Very fun application to use.

    I'm hoping that in the next few weeks we'll get some SP4/SB/iPad Pro reviews from artists, and that'll make deciding what to get a lot easier. That's always a lot better than just comparing specs. Exciting times :).
     
  9. czm2000

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    I can't really offer an opinion on the 460 since I've never used it. But if you look at the service manual this new version of the Yoga 14 is the same as the 460 that was shown at IFA right down to the Pro Pen (stylus) and all the ports and where they're located. Pretty much twins.

    I don't think it's any more complicated than what Sher said and that's that this version of the TPY 14 is simply an exclusive pre-configured version that only Best Buy gets.

    Now why there's a delay on the 460 when they clearly could release it given this new version of the TPY 14 is now available is beyond my knowledge. But suffice it to say Lenovo has its reasons and they don't always make sense to me.

    That said, I'm looking forward to getting this and testing it and upgrading it where I can. I really enjoyed my previous TPY 14 and the only reason I got rid of it is it did not have the stylus support yet when I had bought it this past spring. Hopefully now I'll be able to make better use of it. If not I'll probably jump into the SB or Canvas Z. Maybe by the spring the SB will have come down a hundred or two on price (and or more info on dGPU) or the Canvas Z will have been updated to Skylake. Either would move me much closer to pulling the trigger again on one of them if I'm not totally satisfied with the latest iteration of the TPY 14.
     
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  10. Dungeoness Claw

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    Just played with SB in MS store.
    The keyboard wont work when the clipboard is attached backwards.

    The maximum opening angle is about 125-128 degrees. A little shy from 130 degrees. Which is about the same opening as the Macbook air.
     
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