Surface Book Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Microsoft' started by DRTigerlilly, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. soh5

    soh5 Wait and Hope (Bronsky et al.) Senior Member

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    10% failure rate isnt very optimistic odds. :D
     
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    czm2000 Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    If they could only find a good 1 in 10 that would be tracking for a 90% failure rate.
     
  3. soh5

    soh5 Wait and Hope (Bronsky et al.) Senior Member

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    Reworded... Optimistic for fail boating. :)
     
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  4. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    Hmmmmmm...still running pretty good, but second black screen start (from sleep/hibernate) with red camera (infrared) light running. Took forced power off (hold down power button for 20-30 seconds) and worked correctly on restart. Of course, that keeps me edgy...but

    Love the screen, and it is nearly silent, except if I have it reversed over the keyboard on my desk (so I can take notes) and then fan runs fairly regularly, although not near as loud as the SPro 3. I would really like this one to succeed, but I'm also concerned about the reports on tablet latching above.
     
  5. soh5

    soh5 Wait and Hope (Bronsky et al.) Senior Member

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    Yeah, there was another customer in front of my screaming about her Surface Book experience. She was really upset about the locks and screen crashes, but you know it makes 0 sense to yell at the people on the floor. They have 0 say in product engineering or quality control.

    At the end of the day, its a product that should have been developed more extensively, and the constant locks and hardware failures could be avoided.

    It is true as what @dstrauss has said... the SP4 offers the best angle for taking notes. Sometimes I wish I never sold off my Thinkpad Yoga, only to be dissapointed with the Surface Book.

    I have come to realize, even with the gamer in me, I don't need to lug around a dGPU bound machine. I am sure the minor video editing I do can be handled fine with the Iris GFX 540.

    I've watched all of cbutters videos on throttlign on the Pro 4, and it looks like it is a voltage dependent throttling instead of a thermal throttle, which is good. (Thank you @cbutters)

    With the improvements to the trackpad and the type cover in the new generation I am going to be quite comfortable knowing there will not be much compromise in a true laptop like experience.
     
  6. soh5

    soh5 Wait and Hope (Bronsky et al.) Senior Member

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    Dang you think its Edgy, @Bronsky thought it was leggy. ;)
     
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  7. freya301

    freya301 Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Anyone have any updated info on the SB patch for sleep not eating my battery? It's supposed to be out this month, right?
     
  8. b52hbuff

    b52hbuff Scribbler - Standard Member

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    I enjoy the talking. One thing I'd be interested to hear about from the SB community is the amount of time they spend using SB in the various configurations. I think about how the 2-in-1 makers like to advertise "tent mode" and folding the display back on itself. I don't think I'd ever use either of those. Wouldn't want edge scratches from tent mode and don't like the idea of potentially ripping off a keycap with keyboard folded back.

    But I digress...

    The point seems to be that marketing/engineering seems o provide flexible configurations, but it'd be interesting to know how many folks actually use it.

    Case in point, 80% of the time my SP2 is used with a Power Cover. 10% of time I use it in the dock and the rest as a note taking tablet. So conceivably, I could make due with a laptop and a decent dock.

    What about you SB users? How often do you...
    1. Use it as a laptop?
    2. Detach screen / tablet?
    3. Folded screen / tablet?
    4. Docked?
     
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    Zeelobby Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    When I had it i used it as a laptop 80% of the time, folded screen 18% of the time, and tablet maybe 2%. The battery makes it a poor tablet. So I guess in my use case going with a Thinkpad Yoga probably would make more sense.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
  10. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    Mine has become almost 100% as a laptop, or reversed over the keyboard in docked mode (as a desktop with pen screen). I just haven't had much luck as a tablet (clipboard) because it almost always crashes when reconnected more than 5-10 minutes after detaching. When I just disconnected, flip, and reattach (to start the day on my desk) it usually works fine, although a few times it too crashes/resets. If I take it to a meeting, however, it invariably crashes when reattached after the meeting - that is getting to be a PITA. It invariably goes "black screen" requiring a power button shutdown (30 second hold) and restart.

    This is sad, because in portrait mode, I really feel like I am using a legal pad, which is awesome. The inking is better than the Surface Pro 3 (first time I've admitted that, and nearly as good as Wacom EMR). I want this one to work!
     
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