Surface Book 2 Discussion Thread (13.5" and 15" models)

Discussion in 'Microsoft' started by JoeS, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. Shizaru

    Shizaru Scribbler - Standard Member

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    The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior and all that. If M$ are being honest and aboveboard maybe they should allow an independent audit of their hardware customers service complaints and resolutions? M$ constantly pull stunts to make them seem more successful, transparent and customer-centric than they are in reality.

    Consumer Reports is simply not shoving the Surface Book 2 automatically to the top of their recommended list, before the device has been tested on its own merits. That seems like the responsible thing to do, and should be the case with each product, especially devices that make it to their recommended buys list.

    It's more disturbing to me to think they may recommend a product based on the popularity etc. of previous models especially for expensive high end kit.

    I have read plenty of complaints about the Surface 3 especially older devices and then there's this thread here http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/threads/surface-pro-4-screen-flickering-shaking-jumping-issue.73059/ for the Surface 4. There were plenty of complaints about the original Surface Book after release iirc.

    As consumers we should expect opinions and recommendations expressed by respected/reputable publishers to be honest and accurate, which we all know many aren't, just as the citizenry can't trust news papers and TV news reporting etc. Honest reporting in any field helps keeps those being reported on somewhat honest and when they aren't being scrutinised fairly and honestly corruption, dishonesty and negligence can flourish unhindered, if unchecked eventually those traits become the rule rather than the exception.
     
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  2. convergent

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    You mean like JD Power and Associates?
    https://www.neowin.net/news/jd-powe...ablets-sets-the-bar-for-customer-satisfaction


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  3. Shizaru

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    godofiron Pen Pal - Newbie

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    I'm very curious as to how this would compare to the newly announced HP ZBook X2, as a mobile workstation for artists.
     
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    GPU performance, SB2 (13 and 15) will stomp ZBX2.
    But the good thing about HP Elite and ZBook products are highly serviceable. With MS products, you have to send the device back to MS for repair.
     
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    I very much like that you said that, cause with the information I've gotten over the past couple of days, I'll be going with the ZBook X2 instead of the surface book 2, when it comes out. hopefully they'll be easier to repair when stuff goes wrong, and i could even buy an external GPU for it, because of its Thunderbolt 3 port, when i need major power for stuff.
     
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  8. Steve S

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    And don't forget to watch the humorous Apple pundit video:

     
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    Getting excited! Thinking 15" version, but would go the 13" for sure if it had the same features.
     
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    I am completely and thoroughly sold on the SB2 15” 1TB! This Thursday I will be preordering as early as allowed!

    I have been using both Macs and pen based tablets (Tablet PCs since 2004). (And my first PC was the IBM 5150 bought in 1983 for $3300!). Over time, due to a) the superiority of Office on Windows (vs. Macs) (Office on Windows is much more productive for me) and b) my complete enjoyment of pen input, I have moved back to 100% Windows and have never regretted it. In more recent times, in addition to Asus, Galaxy, Toshiba, and Huawei tablets, of the Surface line I have owned: SP2, SP3, Surface (10”), and the SB1. Right now my daily driver is the SP4 i7 512. My SB1 is i5 256 dGPU that I picked up last Black Friday for $1499 (lowest price ever offered to date on that model). I LOVE the additional size of the SB1 in tablet mode, (over the SP4) and love the keyboard. The SP4 is often used with the SP Dock (vertical) with matching 4K monitor/keyboard/dock setups at home and at the office. Very convenient. I tried the SB1 in 2015 but returned it to let them work out the kinks. Since Black Friday 2016 the SB1 purchased then has been rock solid, as has the SP4 (except an occasional screen flick (I think due to the dock)).

    The SB2 15” seems like an absolute dream machine to me. They made every change I would have asked for - focusing first and foremost on 15” screen, performance, and battery. It will become my new daily driver and provide docked desktop performance, mobile laptop performance with15” 3:2 beauty, plus 15” 3:2 dream tablet. I love every aspect of this design and don’t think there is any other PC on the market that even comes remotely close to meeting my needs and aspirations in a Windows machine. It’s been a very, very long time since I’ve been as enthusiastic about the pending release of a new machine. They really nailed it.

    How wild that my first PC in 1983 (IBM 5150) cost $3300 (and I loved it), and 34 years later, the dream machine I want now (SB2 15” 1TB) costs the exact same amount! Except in today’s adjusted dollars the IBM would cost $8500!

    So given all that the fully loaded SB2 15” offers, $3300 doesn’t seem so bad after all.

    Come quickly November 16!

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