Samsung Notebook 9 - 13" and 15" flippers with Windows 10 and spen

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  1. Marty

    Marty Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    So I'm guess anything more than dirt-cheap is pretty much off the table huh?

    What about you @stoneseeker? What price would make you want to get this?

    It's funny, I've been on this forum for over 10 years and I still have no idea what other Canadians are paying for their tablet gear. Or even if they are following the latest tablet news.

    From my journeys down to the local Memory Express, the enthusiast desktop PC market seems to be going strong (as you showed, Stone ;)). We get the latest video cards and processors just weeks after they come out in the States, but tablets...man we've got to wait like months for them to eek out. Is the demand really that low?
     
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  3. Kumabjorn

    Kumabjorn ***** is back Senior Member

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    @dstrauss
    Seems you are missed, you old coot.;)
     
  4. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    I hope he hasn't been dstraussed..
     
  5. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    Rumors of his passing are greatly exaggerated...

    That's two...

    OK - that's three...

    Coot...really?

    [​IMG]

    You gotta be more careful how many times you call the name children...

    I just have trouble being excited about a 1080p screen that large, with only a 256gb SSD, despite having the requisite silo. If they can silo a pretty good small format pen in the Tab A10, they could do the same in the GB12 and GB 10.6. Even going with the relatively tiny GN 7 pen would be a blessing - and then they could sell the large format pen as an accessory. But you would ALWAYS have the pen with you.

    OK kids - it's your thread again...

    PS - anybody think he might just be at WWDC...NAH!
     
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  6. YVerloc

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    FHD? LOL
     
  7. stoneseeker

    stoneseeker Animator and Art Director Senior Member

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    Moving to another city? Or staying put in the East, just transferring homes??
     
  8. stoneseeker

    stoneseeker Animator and Art Director Senior Member

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    Well I paid through the nose for my T902 despite upgrading SSD and RAM myself, having ordered it custom from Japan, which was the only way aside from waiting for an Ebay seller that sold to Canada to get it here. It was $3200 after I upgraded it.
    The Vaio was ordered online too, and was far more reasonable but still came in around $1800 after taxes and everything... I spent $700 ish on the NotePro 12.2, actually bought the last one from Best Buy, but I suppose its more of a pro-sumer device.

    For a machine I figure is going to be doing heavy lifting at work, I can justify the higher price tag and put it against my taxes come tax time, but this Samsung Book doesn't yet look to be enough of a upgrade to consider for me. The performance would likely be not as robust as the T902, with a lower power CPU that couldn't sustain long turbo speeds, though I imagine it might bench slightly higher results within short bursts... Nice looking 15" EMR is tempting, but I would just spring for the mobile studio pro if I was really wanting to get a larger form to replace my mobile setup I think. The Lenovo Yoga 720 15" is VERY tempting spec wise, but still not EMR... and I'm not really working as much mobile anymore, so its less priority for me right now to find the perfect all in one solution. I suppose having a powerful desktop at home opens the doors for considering deals on things like this if it ever went on crazy sale, like say, $1000 clearance at Best Buy I would consider if it had decent reviews and performance wasn't severely hampered.

    Side note: Any Wacom AES equipped units to try at Canadian stores like Best Buy that your aware of? I wanna go demo Wacom AES to form a solid opinion on its potential in my workflow and any improvements it may have on Ntrig.
     
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  9. Marty

    Marty Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Thanks for the detailed reply, Stone. I'm actually in very similar situation to yourself: I've got a pretty powerful desktop + Cintiq and a pretty powerful Z Canvas as tablet. There is actually no "real" technical reason to upgrade...

    This is what I was fearing, is that there are Canadian tablet enthusiasts, but they are very much looking for economical "side-tablets", rather than new $2000+ daily drivers.

    At this rate, I'm not even sure Samsung will launch the Pro 15 here. The tablet market seems extremely barren and dry...

    ...and that is why I've never actually gotten a chance to try Wacom AES in-store!

    Have you seen even any older AES tablets like XPS 12s, Spectre x2s, Yoga 14s in any stores? They all seem to be online only and almost never at the bargain basement prices you see on in the US.

    I fear for the tablet market here, I don't want our only options to be Surface Pros... :(
     
  10. thatcomicsguy

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    For a machine costing $500 USD ($700 CAD after shipping and other BS), I could justify that Dell AES 15.6" 2-in-1 I was using for a while. Even recommend it. But anything approaching or over $1000..?

    No way.

    AES is strictly minor league.

    Which is not to say a skilled artist can't make it work. You're just going to be 20% slower and more miserable doing so.

    -I used cheap water colour paints for years; the $10 for 12 tubes sets. Then one time I decided to take the retailer's advice and buy the $75 set. I was amazed. It was like removing exercise weights from my ankles and wrists.

    You can get both to work, but if you are skilled enough to notice the difference and be appreciably slowed down by the cheap stuff, then you might be ready to take advantage of more refined tech.

    I'd probably pay up to $2000 for the Samsung. But it had better be battle-tank tough and reliable and not have any real bugs or annoyances.

    And honestly, I think the only way to guarantee that level of quality is to buy used from eBay. -Where the product descriptions are actually effing honest: ("Works great, the battery is old and doesn't hold a charge and it has a crack in the keyboard and three dead pixels"), rather than having to discover random glitches on your own after paying the "New!" price. You can decide if those are bugs you can live with or not.

    My Dell was bought on eBay, but it wasn't used. It was a new, unopened item, so I broke my own rule. And, of course, it had a random glitch which, had I known about, I simply wouldn't have bought. -But given the price, and the six months of use I got out of it, I don't feel especially burned by.

    But my takeaway is that "Used is better than New". (Where the original owner did all the suffering so you don't have to). -Unless you are dealing with a company with a respectable service department and you don't mind playing the $2000 lottery where you have a 30% chance of losing.

    However, if that Samsung were available from a bricks and mortar store with a decent return policy, like "Staples", then I might consider spending big on it. Staples has a no-questions return policy on this stuff, which is the only way I'd drop that kind of cash.

    We'll have to wait and see if they bother carrying it.
     
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