Samsung Notebook 9 - 13" and 15" flippers with Windows 10 and spen

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  1. Shizaru

    Shizaru Scribbler - Standard Member

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    There is no third-party bloat beyond McAfee. There is the usual junk that M$ deploy by default and third-party drivers from Intel etc. other than that it's a few minor Samsung apps mostly system related. With the exception of some of the M$ garbage anything you don't want on your system is easily removed.
     
  2. Kumabjorn

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    I'm not suggesting you can't remove it.
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  3. thatcomicsguy

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    That's computing in the world of PC portables. You're surprised by this? Welcome to the Jungle! -Where you will be tested to either prove yourself and discover riches only accessible to the bold, or where you will be eaten.

    The alternative is to play it safe and dull and with very limited possibilities in terms of software and hardware on a Mac.

    The last Mac I worked on made me feel like my computer had been drugged and lobotomized, and while safe from 3rd party predators and problems, it was obviously nailed to a table for Apple to exploit and provide inefficient Kafka-esque bureaucratic service models for without user recourse. The scam of the enforced upgrade path is precisely the kind of abuse a competitive model prevents.

    Huh.

    I never thought of it like that before:

    Apple = Socialist

    PC = Capitalist.

    (Though the creep of the less healthy side of socialist practice is definitely affecting MS these days. Windows 10 makes a pointed attempt to emulate some of Apple's more lucrative exploits.)
     
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  4. WillAdams

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    I really wish that Axiotron would work up some reasonable and up-to-date option.

    Or that Wacom would do an updated Mobile Studio Pro which would work well enough away from a Mac Mini that I could justify it.
     
  5. Art_N00b

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    And in the Apple world, I have to buy an additional machine (iPad Pro) with a different operating system (!) just to get a portable drawing solution. I find that absurd.

    Each environment has its issues. When we do things like uninstall bloatware, or shell out extra for a Modbook, we're just dealing with it.

    If there was an issue-free computing ecosystem, that would be totally sweet. But there is not and probably never will be.
     
  6. Marty

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    ...and

    Linux = Anarchist

    I think we know which one is best. ;)
     
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  7. Kumabjorn

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    Kim Jong-Tim?
     
  8. Nicholas8681

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    Wow. I mean. It was a mini-review. Those were the issues I had, and the things I didn’t like.

    I think they were reasonable issues. I would say it’s unfair to expect a user to remove a bunch of useless apps (the Samsung apps had OS tools that I want to manage with OS settings not there software), clean install an OS, setup without WiFi, etc. And odd aggressive comparisons that I found a bit offensive. What happened to this community? I’ve been a member since my TC1100, and I don’t recall people having so little empathy. Shouldn’t we see the issues someone is having, and provide suggestions? ie. Any other products offering a better display, and less bloat? Not compare companies as political ideologies in ways that make no sense. Or suggest the person do exactly what they stated they didn’t want to do. Not constructive at all.

    Clearly I want simplicity. I’ve done enough reinstalls that resulted in drivers not working, etc. to want to avoid that. I remember working forever to get my digitizer working again on my beloved HP tx2500. (Wish that form factor still existed.)

    At this point (two failed Surface Books, and a disappointing Samsung) I may end up going with a larger iPad Pro, and ssh into a Linux server for the times I need specific tooling.
     
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  9. defjeff

    defjeff Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Well I purchased the Notebook 9 Pro 15" from Best Buy yesterday. Open-box, plus reward certificates and the current sale landed me at about $800. Had to jump.

    I'm waiting for the full sized S Pen to arrive via mail, but here are some quick impressions:

    This is absolutely the best pen experience at this price this side of the Apple Pencil. Even with the included "toothpick" stylus, it's a league above the HP's, Dell's, Lenovo's, etc.

    With that said, it took some tinkering to get it working smoothly. This is mostly due, from what I can tell, to Photoshop not being optomized to work with laptops with dGPU's. I had the same issue with my older laptop, and I remember seeing people complain about it with the Surface Book. The solution to this is to go into the Radeon settings and switch the application to "power saver" mode. This will force Photoshop to use the intergrated graphics, which is plenty adaquate for raster graphics.

    The other thing is it reminded me how much setting up there is with a new Windows machine. Hours. Not to mention bloatware and annoyances like the camera options opening evertime I log into Windows. With an iPad Pro, you're up and running in under 10 minutes. Still, it's worth the trade-off for me to a great pen experience with Photoshop.

    When it comes to the S Pen vs the Apple Pencil, I might prefer the S pen. There's a side button, it's lighter, the tip allows for more precision, it provides resistance, and it doesn't require charging. I will say, however, that the 2017 iPad Pro's have an anti-glare coating which reduces the slipperiness.

    Overall, my optimizism is high. Only thing is I might try to do an exchange because my unit has some backlight bleed. Just enough to annoy me.
     
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  10. thatcomicsguy

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    In case you're interested.., I've been totally digging this pen on the N9P:

    https://www.amazon.com/Smardi-Plus-...TF8&qid=1532292376&sr=8-4&keywords=s+pen+plus

    Cheaper than the regular Full Size S Pen, too.
     
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