Paint Tool Sai V2 - 64bit - beta

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  1. Azzart

    Azzart Late night illustrator Senior Member

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    Performance boost was the main goal of a couple of Kickstarter fund raising ago if I remember correctly.
    Also if memory serves me well, they implented multi-core painting which is something fairly rare.
     
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    Shogmaster Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    Very interesting indeed...
     
  3. thatcomicsguy

    thatcomicsguy Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    The latest beta is out for SAI2 (As of three days ago.)

    https://www.systemax.jp/en/sai/devdept.html

    Still no touch gui. Lasso still can't toggle between poly and freehand on the fly.

    Otherwise, it's smooth as silk. Best brush engine and wacom drivers in circulation.

    When Touch is enabled, this will be a real piece of software and will take over the world.
     
  4. thatcomicsguy

    thatcomicsguy Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    Holy cow!

    Paint Tool Sai V2 Beta updated several weeks ago and I wasn't paying attention. And the software developer and company president, Koji Komatsu, added a feature I've been requesting since forever, from every major art package! SAI is the first outside Photoshop to offer it.

    It's called: "Polygonal + Freeform"

    Using the lasso tool, when the stylus is running across the screen it draws a selection line organically, and when you lift the stylus, it doesn't close the selection area but rather automatically toggles into polygonal selection mode, allowing the user to tap points around the desired selection area. You can instantly slip back into draw-to-select mode simply by returning the nib to the screen surface. It closes the selection on a double tap.

    -All of which is basically the same as Photoshop's system, minus the need for a keyboard. Not having to fiddle with Alt and CTRL keys to achieve the same functionality makes SAI's implementation an actual GUI improvement.

    I'm beside myself. I've been asking for this feature for years. I wonder if this inclusion was a result of my pestering, or if it was a natural extension of the author's work? Who knows? Who cares! It's here and it works! Hallelujah!

    Now.., the next big hurdle for SAI is to implement touch features, (panning and pinch-to-zoom, etc.) I can't imagine it should take very long now, given that it's a basic GUI feature these days with lots of examples available to source from, -though, I also suspect it will be somehow just a bit better than everybody else's version. When Koji Komatsu does something, he does it exquisitely!

    Check out the beta version of SAI 2:

    https://www.systemax.jp/en/sai/devdept.html
     
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    thatcomicsguy Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    New update as of Jan 25th, 2020.

    Everything is smooth and wonderful. -Though, there's still no touch interface.

    I'm going to try grey-toning my next comic strip in SAI 2. -Because it works so much better than Photoshop's. (On my Dell laptop's GPU, for some reason Photoshop's lasso tool is buggy and unreliable.) And Koji Komatsu further tweaked a polygonal/freehand selection option where you don't even need to toggle any keyboard keys!

    Download the latest beta of SAI 2 here...

    https://www.systemax.jp/en/sai/devdept.html
     
  6. YVerloc

    YVerloc Scribbler - Standard Member

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    you're getting the buggy lasso too? it only showed up for me in the latest release. A wacom driver update mostly fixed it
     
  7. thatcomicsguy

    thatcomicsguy Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    It works most of the time on my Samsung N9P, but on my Dell Latitude e6440, it's super unreliable. It's a graphics card problem, apparently. (As I've been advised by helpful users on Adobe forums, like it's somehow my fault rather than Adobe's and that complaining was an attack on the tribe.)

    My view is that the selection tool was easily one of the most fundamental functions of the software back when it was first created, and that allowing it to become buggy is inept. -Especially when every other art program includes a working lasso without issue.
     
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  9. thatcomicsguy

    thatcomicsguy Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    The latest Paint Tool Sai 2 update is live as of May 10th...

    https://www.systemax.jp/en/sai/devdept.html

    And man, it's smooooooth to draw and ink with! It even goes some distance in minimizing the Dell Canvas line hooking bug.

    I REALLY hope to see touch enabled on it in a future update! I want to start using Sai again for inks, but I'm a hopeless devotee of the touch interface and will likely stick with ClipStudio Paint until that happens. -But for all those users on Cintiqs without Touch enabled, it's basically ready right now.
     
  10. thatcomicsguy

    thatcomicsguy Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    Check it out...

    Sai's maker responded to an email I recently sent:

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    >Hello,
    >
    >I will add touch features in the future.
    >
    >Thank you.
    >
    >-Koji Komatsu
    >

    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    >>
    >>
    >>I'm just testing the 2020-06-17 release.
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    >>It is beautiful! The brush engine is very smooth. Thank-you for this excellent software.
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    >>I also wanted to thank-you for including a good selection tool with alt-key toggle feature! It is excellent to see! I was so excited to see that!
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    >>I hope I will not annoy you with one final request...
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    >>Will you include Touch Navigation?
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    >>I have become very used to the touch screen on my Dell Canvas 27. It would be the last thing Sai needs to be perfect.
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    >>
    >>Thank-you!
    >>
    ~~~~~~~~~~~


    How cool is that?
     
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