New Propad 600 and Elitepad 1000!

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  1. monty87

    monty87 Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Rick, how do we order the R2 version of the pen. I purchased the original in june, do you think hp can swap out the original for the R2 version
     
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    dceggert Owner of a TabletPC Museum Senior Member

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    I do not see a new pen on the website available for order. The pen shown has the same P/N as the one from last year. I would hope that a new pen with a new pressure curve would carry an updated P/N but maybe not?
     
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    2.0™ Been Inkin' Staff Member

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    It appears that HP is giving out the R2 pens as warranty replacements. 2 colleagues of mine both received them as replacement pens recently.
     
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    dceggert Owner of a TabletPC Museum Senior Member

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    I wonder if any internal contact corrosion issues have been addressed with R2. My G2 (R1) pen needs a lot of fiddling to get started and keep working.
     
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    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    Wow. If that isn't a classic N-Trig problem.:vbrolleyes:
     
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    I have one of the R2 pens. I don't know if it would be internal contact corrosion. How does it feel when you unscrew it? Rough? My R2 pen was rough (still is) and I cleaned the threads, + contact and contact spring with rubbing alcohol. Though the threads where a little dirty, it didn't seem to make any difference with regards to performance.

    In any event, as compared to a Wacom tablet's digitzer (i.e. Elitebook 2760p) which uses a simple USB interface, the ElitePad 1000's Atmel digitizer uses an I2C interface. Things run smooth until you load a program and then the pen fails to register for about 15 to 30 secs. When things seem to settle down from loading the program, it works again and continues to do so until some other "major" activity crops up. Don't know exactly what to account for it and I've tweaked my setup to give priority to the processes responsible for the pen. Even disabled sleep for the pen in device manager. All that those things accomplish is a predictable pen outage.

    When the pen works, which is often, it's great.

    When it has these odd "blackouts" I burn incense on the altar of my old Wacom shrine. Makes one appreciate Wacom's legendary edge miscalibration as a feature instead of a flaw. :D

    Us pen enabled tablet PC users have been so abused by manufacturers that when things work, we get giddy. Yeah, I feel dirty when I get giddy. But when you're inking in a meeting and the pen goes out because you loaded up a PDF using Acrobat Reader, yet you kept your cool and started to replay in your head what you were going to write so you wouldn't forget it and then the pen kicks in again and you ink it without missing a beat because you actually remembered it and the new info conveyed during the pen outage... you get giddy because at that moment you realize that you made do and it's not the tools that make the man.

    But gatdayum...

    This wouldn't have happen with a Wacom. Yeah I said it. :p


    Parenthetical: (I noticed you have a Helix. I recently looked into getting one of those also to add to my collection of tablets. I don't know though. 3-4 hour battery life in tablet only mode... I have to maybe think about my use scenarios. Such as when and where I could drop it into the keyboard dock. How often and for how long do I actually use tablet only mode? Have to admit that I really, really like this Elitepad 1000. Inking is uber important though.)
     
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    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    A number of times at meetings, I would look up from the screen on my old Fuji Q552 after having had exactly that brief skip-and-catch with a satisfied smile and I would get the strangest looks.
     
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    dceggert Owner of a TabletPC Museum Senior Member

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    My Helix is doing okay and I am able to get through the day pretty well; I actually like my Elitepad 1000 better but I needed more storage space and my i7 Helix with 256 GB was less than an EP1000 with 128. However, I am not enjoying the Wacom pen experience as it has all the same issues as my T732; parallax, edge issues, loses calibration, and it turns itself off occasionally needing a reboot. N-trig v3.5+ spoiled the heck out of me. I like having the hard keyboard as opposed to the SP 3 Pro but MS picked a better pen. With all the 'gotta only have Wacom' that gets attention on this site those individuals, if they are not professional artists, are missing out on a better inking experience with the new N-trig systems. The only thing I like better is not having a battery in the pen to keep an eye on.
    regards,
    Dan
     
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    My other Wacom tablets had some of those issues also. The Elitebook 2760p only seems to have the edge issues. But not nearly as bad as the other Wacom tablets I've seen and owned.

    Earlier today, I did another cleaning of the Executive R2 pen using electrical contact cleaner. So far, that momentary pause I mentioned in the prior post has not appeared. I gave it a pretty good workout too. Loading up all kinds of programs. Not a hiccup.

    Seems you were right about the corrosion issue.

    I used WD40 Specialist Electrical Contact cleaner. Buffed off with a lint free cloth.
     
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    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    I really like the Wacom pen on the M80TA far better than any of the N-Trig pens I've used. With the right tips on my S10 eraser pen, writing is as natural and fluid as I've felt on a tablet. The S3 pen does get close but the Wacom is effortless and consistent.
     
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