Need help finding the right 2in1 for my artistic needs

Discussion in 'What Tablet PC Should I Buy?' started by Soulular, May 9, 2021.

  1. Soulular

    Soulular Pen Pal - Newbie

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    I've been looking around for the perfect (or close to perfect) 2 in 1 tablet/PC for simple doc writing, drawing comics, and doing 2D animation on the go. I thought the surface pro 7 would have been the perfect choice but after having to return the first one due to hardware issues and returning the second one due to issues with the pen and touch not responding multiple times, I've deiced to go back to do some more research to see what would work for what I need. Right now I'm a bit stumped because there are a few ones that I think would work for me like the Samsung Galaxy Book 12, Lenovo ThinkPad X1, HP Elite x2 and Dell New Latitude 5290, but I'm just unsure if one of these would be the best fit.

    1. What is your budget?
    1200$, but I can spend a little more (200$+) if needed

    2. Would you consider purchasing used/refurbished?
    not really unless I absolutely have to.

    3. Do you prefer a media/mobile tablet like the iPad, Windows tablet PC, or notebook convertible?
    Yes.

    4. What size Tablet PC would you prefer?
    • 5 to7-inches
    • 7.1 to 10-inches
    • 10 to 13-inches
    • Above 13-inches
    10 to 13-inches

    5. Which country do you intent to purchase from [where do you live]?
    United states

    6. Do you have any preferences to brand loyalty or dislikes?
    After what I went though with the surface pro, just anything that isn't Microsoft.

    7. How many hours battery life do you require?
    A decent amount, like around 4 hours or so.

    8. What will be the primary usage scenario of this tablet? (Email/Web Surfing/Drawing/Word Processing/Entertainment/Notetaking etc)
    Drawing, 2D animation, and Writing

    9. Do you have an OS preference? For example, do you own an iPhone and a Mac, or are you a Windows fan? Do you own an Android device and use Google services frequently?
    It must be windows.

    10. What software and tasks do you intend to run? (Microsoft Office or other Word Processing Suite/Photoshop/3D Studio Max/Autocad etc)
    Clip Studio Paint, Audacity, Shotcut

    11. Do you intend on playing Games? If so please list.
    If I do it would be platformers or old style games, nothing to intensive.

    12. Would you like to stream content through your home theater system?
    no.

    Screen Specifics

    1. Any preference on screen resolution?
    1920 x 1080 or more.

    2. Will you be using the tablet outdoors? Do you need to be able to see it through glare from the sun?
    See the above linked FAQ for guidance
    Possibly will.

    3. Do you require a pen? With or without pressure sensitivity? Do you prefer Wacom EMR, AES or N-trig?
    See the above linked FAQ for guidance
    I need a pen but I can buy one separate if needed, must have pressure sensitivity, no tilt or at least an option to turn the tilt off, and must be Wacom EMR.

    Component Specifics

    1. What size Hard Drive and Memory do you require? Would you like expandable memory?
    Between 4GB-8GB of RAM, between 256GB-512GB SSD, and expandable memory is preferred.


    2. What sort of inputs do you require, if any? Would you like full-sized USB and SD card slots? Are microUSB and microSD ok? Do you require HDMI inputs?
    Looking for at least 1 Type-A USB slot, headphone jack port, and either a full sized or microSD card slot.

    Misc
    1. Other non specific items ~ please add other items you require not covered above?
    N/A
    2. Additional requests ~ anything other you wish to take into consideration?
    N/A
     
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  2. doobiedoobiedum

    doobiedoobiedum Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    There's a scary video of the very latest Samsung Galaxy Pro being tested at Linus Tech Tips but last year's Flex model is available at Best Buy (open box) for around $850 top price. Meets all your spec requirements and $400 cheaper than your limit. Also, as the Wacom EMR on the Galaxy is the same as on a range of other devices, I would advise you to pick up the HP X2 G4 stylus - you get 6 softer gray nibs plus the traditional hard black plastic nibs.

    @thatcomicsguy is a comics artist who's run Galaxy tablets for his business and can probably support the idea of the Galaxy being more than you need for 2D artwork. If you want a 3D powerhouse then you need to pay a whole lot more again.

    Here's the scary video for the very latest Galaxy Pro - scroll to 09:47 minutes and then 11:16 minutes.

     
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  3. Soulular

    Soulular Pen Pal - Newbie

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    oof yeah that track pad issue is really bad, definitely will skip on that one.

    Also while the galaxy book flex looks great I'll probably put that on the back burner if i can't find a 2in1 that's a bit smaller. I know that it does come in 13.3 inches but I'm still worried it might be a little too big (and maybe clunky to handle) for what I'm looking for. I'm trying to find something with a full on tablet experience but with windows and the Samsung Galaxy Book 12 looks like a great pick but it seems really hard to find especially a new one, probably due to it being an older model.
     
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  4. Marty

    Marty Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    Windows EMR slates are an endangered species nowadays. Your choices with modern(ish) processors are the Surface Pro 1 and 2 10.6", Cube Mix Plus 10.6", Galaxy Book 12", Acer Switch 7 Black Edition 13.5", HP ZBook x2 14", and Wacom MobileStudio Pro 15.6.

    For portability, the ZBook and MSP are probably out as they have wide bezel buttons.

    If battery life is not a concern, I'd go with Switch 7 for the added performance (though it will probably land out of your budget barring a lucky eBay find). Also note, the pen buttons cannot be remapped with Wacom Feel drivers (but there may be a way via AutoHotkey scripting like on the GB12).

    Otherwise for more general purpose use and light sketching, I'd go with the GB12.
     
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  5. Soulular

    Soulular Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Yeah that makes sense considering how hard its been to find one that's kinda new. I was looking into the Lenovo Thinkpad X12 which seemed to come out recently but it seems to only support AES from my research (still got my fingers crossed that I might find something saying it supports EMR). I know though Lamy's website (here) they have a list of devices that support EMR and one of them was the 2018 model of the lenovo thinkpad X1 and I was hoping they might have still kept the support in the X12.

    I did a search Ebay for the Acer Switch 7 but no luck there, I'll keep looking but i doubt something like that will pop up on ebay the next day.
    Also found 1 listing for the Cube Mix Plus 10.6 (here) for a pretty good price used but not sure about it just yet.

    Right now my eyes are on the Galaxy book 12" as I also found a good listing for a refurbished one (here), I'm just not a fan of how the back stand works but beggars can't be choosers lol.
     
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    dellaster “Content Consuming Child” Senior Member

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    Be aware it says in the description: “KEYBOARD AND STYLUS NOT INCLUDED! Only come with charger.”
     
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  7. Soulular

    Soulular Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Thanks for pointing that out! I completely missed that lol
     
  8. doobiedoobiedum

    doobiedoobiedum Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    As others have said you are looking for a rare animal at 12".
    Are there any industry suppliers who might have direct access to brand new supplies? I've bought a couple of brand new items (including a second HP zbook stylus) when mainstream / high street supplies were gone.

    For example - one specialist supplier I often look to is "Insight" and they would order (like when my stylus was ordered) the very rare Switch 7 in the UK for me at £1467 ($1299 in the USA - don't ask - we pay horrible prices in the UK)

    https://www.uk.insight.com/en-gb/productinfo/laptops-and-notebooks/0010156289

    We couldn't get the Switch 7 when it first came out. Mind you - it may be bigger than your ideal 12"

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    Galaxy Book 12 $1464 - https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/SM-W723NZKAXAR/SAMSUNG/SM-W723NZKAXAR/Samsung-Galaxy-Book--12"--Core-i5-7200U--8-GB-RAM--256-GB-SSD/

    Galaxy Book 10.6 $729 - https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/SM-W623NZKBXAR/SAMSUNG/SM-W623NZKBXAR/Samsung-Galaxy-Book--106"--Core-m3-7Y30--4-GB-RAM--64-GB-SSD/?partnermessage=&partnerimage=
     
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  9. Soulular

    Soulular Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Yeah, I'm honestly close to just saying screw it and go for a 13.3 inch 360 keyboard 2 in 1 with EMR at this point, but I'll hold out a little longer before I do.

    The Galaxy book 10 inch that was linked doesn't look like a bad offer, the specs seem a bit lack luster for what i may need but it might get the job done. The Book 12 looks great too, just will need to wait for my next paycheck to come in if i do decide to get it.

    I appreciate you taking the time to find these offers, hopefully they don't disappear by the time I decide if I will get one of them or not.
     
  10. doobiedoobiedum

    doobiedoobiedum Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    It was actually useful for me too however I already have a 14 inch EMR tablet (zbook x2 G4) which is pretty big and the new and rumoured Samsung Tab s7 Lite at 12.4 inches with s-Pen might be my future light 2D sketching device. (even if it runs Android)
     
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