Microsoft's next Surface event is on October 2

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  1. Chris_Kez

    Chris_Kez Scribbler - Standard Member

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    To be fair, Microsoft invited a few tech journalists to a small non-descript warehouse with a couple of couches. The whole thing was maybe an hour and they didn't even stream it.


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    Blessed are the hopeless, they'll never be disappointed.
    Guess, it's now on to Samsung event. On the 5th, right? I wonder what birthday surprise Sammy has in stock for me.

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  3. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    On the topic of the October update, should we be getting this on Windows Update right now? My X1Y3 is not seeing it.

    Edit: apparently MS' Machine Learning algorithm decides whether any machine is worthy. See here: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...ow-to-get-the-windows-10-october-2018-update/

    Even manually checking it doesn't show, which if I read that article correctly implies that there's a blocking issue for the X1 Yoga 3rd gen. Boo.

    Edit: gotta love how TPCR abbreviates that link
     
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  4. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops My friends call me Jeff Senior Member

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    The problem is they needed to have a major event. They needed to make significant upgrades to the line. They needed to get TB3 and LTE and, yes, USB-C onto their devices and they needed to get IRIS into the top of the line devices and to finish releasing the Surface Go with the 8GB/256GB/LTE version. The fact that they didn't plan to and will get around to it when they get around to it (like putting 8th gen cpus in their flagship devices a year late) and it is certainly their prerogative to not care about being competitive in the hardware market. It's just so disappointing, as we really need a leader, who takes design and quality as seriously as Apple but on the Windows platform, the way they've been teasing us into thinking they were doing. As I alluded to earlier, Apple has done the same thing with the MacBook line and perhaps they're both making wise business decisions - Apple because their bread and butter is with phones, tablets, services; MS because theirs is enterprise. It's just a bummer for all of us, is all. And because they've become nearly consumer-hostile in their behavior in the past year makes it easier for this member to be more than disappointed, but angry. If they've got such massive cash cows going in enterprise and all the consumers stuck with Windows and Office, and they've got massive investments in hardware development compared to any other "normal" company, why not either excel at hardware or exit the business? I think it amounts to a branding campaign - you can't have product placement if you don't have products to place; you can't showcase MS Outlook in a movie scene!
     
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    By the way, Windows 10 Pro ironically does not come standard anymore with the Surface Pro at least—just Home. Whaaa... Why call it a Surface Pro then? That is literally part of the name, guys. That was a low blow and totally unnecessary when unlike their competitors, it costs them nothing in licensing.

    Just... wow. The more I look, the more I find of bad things to dislike about this whole generation. At this point, unless the Surface Pro 7 radically improves things back to its amazing heritage, adiós Surface for me. I am dead serious.
     
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  6. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Well.. they're still pretty nice machines so I'm not sure they really needed major changes. For me the main wish list items: TB3 all around and yoga hinge on the Surface Laptop. So they're pretty close to perfect for me personally. And in MS' defense, the Surface Studio did get the much needed kick in the HDD pants.. That thing looks great, albeit with a slightly outdated CPU from what I read.

    The one Surface Device where I'd really like to see some big changes is the Surface Book 3. As in, add kickstand, add TB3 on slate, make fulcrum hinge 360deg. But now I'm being greedy.. :)
     
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    lovelaptops My friends call me Jeff Senior Member

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    Yeah, par for the course they've been on recently. Like no pens included when they once were, overall the Surface product line has been an exercise in de-contenting, weakening the effectiveness of warranties, staying a year or more behind on hardware standards, and changing virtually nothing while raising prices - explicitly or implicitly by taking away formerly standard accessories. I believe that any real consumer brand - Samsung, Lenovo, HP, Dell would be pilloried in the marketplace and tech press for all of this. What galls me is that both Apple and Microsoft - and, frankly, Google in their limited, feeble forays into hardware - are treated as if somehow they get away with such terrible product development and support because, because, because WHY???
     
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    Undoubtedly the quad-core upgrade is huge, but they totally spoiled making it look awesome with all these other glaring flaws. There is no Windows 10 Pro on the Surface *Pro* anymore, either. It is literally part of the name. Surface. Pro. People already joke about the iPad Pro’s toy OS. I guess Microsoft wanted to jump on that bandwagon, too. I have to wonder, though: who were the executives who signed off on all of this stupidity letting it go forward as-is?
     
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  9. wataru

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    From the Best Buy page,
    From Gizmodo,
    This is disappointing given that SB2 13" has no fan with the same i7 CPU model.

    And how about giving a 512GB/16GB option to the i5? The i7 is simply robbery with its GPU downgrade and fan.
     
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    Well folks, my hope is that this lackluster upgrade will drive down the prices of the nSP/SP5, which if I'm being honest, was the most enjoyable 2-in-1 I've owned and returned so far (I've decided I can live without great pen performance as I can use my iPP for sketching). Let me know if you see any deals over the coming weeks! :D
     
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