looking for a 2-1 Windows laptop

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  1. daddyfish

    daddyfish Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Hi, my current 2-1 Envy laptop (late 2018, 15") broke completely (hinge failure, was apparently a design issue) and so I am looking for a new 2-1 laptop. My requirements:
    - needs to last around 5 years (in contrary to my current laptop).
    - needs to be 2-1 laptop (for note taking and sketching ideas), either Ntrig or something else that uses a silo pen.
    - Screen size needs to be at least 14" (or 3:2 13.5") screen, 15" or even 17" is absolutely fine too but I suspect the latter will be rare for a 2-1 laptop
    - 12-16 gb ram, or 8 gb ram + room for upgrading.
    - 512 gb SSD (128 or 256gb would be fine if there is room for a 2nd SSD)
    - I prefer cpu / igpu this gen (so Tigerlake i5 or Ryzen 4500u/5500u or such).

    . I have found 4 laptops that particularly peaked my interest but I am not sure which would be most durable and futureproof. The 3 laptops are:
    - HP Envy 2021 15" with AMD Ryzen 5500u, 512 gb ssd, 8 gb ram (but can be upgraded) for 900 euro.
    - Asus Vivobook Flip 14" with AMD Ryzen 4500u, 512 gb ssd, 8 gb ram (but can be upgraded) for 700 euro.
    - Asus Vivobook Flip 14" with AMD Ryzen 4700u, 512 gb ssd, 16 gb ram for 900 euro.
    - Acer Travelmate Spin 14" with Tiger Lake i5, 512 gb ssd, 8 gb ram (but can be upgraded) for 930 euro.

    The Acer is a business laptop I believe (so more durable I guess?), has a silo pen but on the downside is apparently much slower. The Envy is the fastest here but I am not sure how long the hinges will last. Than finally the Vivobook is the cheapest but screen is darker at 250 nits (vs 300 nits) and its somewhat heavy for a 14". There is also the Thinkbook Yoga 14s but I removed it from the list because BSOD complains listed at various forums.

    Any tips or suggestions would be helpful.
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Fair enough. FWIW, Lenovo offers steep discounts on many systems at various points through the year. Like 30% or sometimes even 40%. So if you're not in a hurry, it's worth checking their pages regularly or signing up for their spam.
     
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    , sadly I am in a hurry otherwise I would follow your advise and await patiently :) , 30% off would definitely make it enticing.

    Anyone here tried the Acer Travelmate? The screen appears not to be the best but it seems durable and reliable and has a stylus silo.
     
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    Seems like there's a 40% sale going on right now. Or did you want 30% off these prices?

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    , I live in a different country though, but thanks for notifying me (there is here the same sale but only on some clamshell models and at 15%)
     
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    I bought the Asus Vivobook Flip 14 with a Ryzen 4500u for 700 euro and am testing it now. My first thoughts:
    - the design is surprisingly premium for a budget laptop. Laptop seems to be made out of a mix between plastic and metal. Edges are not sharp but I would not use it as a tablet (its still to heavy for that at 1.5 kg).
    - screen is decent (though as expected not meant for prof. photoshop work and not for outside work in the sun)
    - battery seems good (6-8 hours for basic computing / browsing?, need to test this further)
    - charger is compact
    - lots of bloatware but can be uninstalled
    - my surface pen works on it and it attaches magnetically at the top of the lid reasonably sturdy.:) Touchscreen itself feels a bit rough though but does work well.
    - keyboard layout is nice (page up/down as separate column to the right), keyboard itself seems middle class
    - touchpad is snappy (Precision touchpad I would guess), medium sized for 14".
     
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