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  1. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    Hardly a "rig something together costing quite a bit more than even a premium gaming laptop."
     
  2. Kumabjorn

    Kumabjorn ***** is back Senior Member

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    As someone with insight would you mind to expand, clarify and give some concrete examples?
     
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    sonichedgehog360 Editor-in-Chief of TechAndTiny Senior Member

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    sonichedgehog360 Editor-in-Chief of TechAndTiny Senior Member

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    Compare the best from both, and then also read some of the off-color stories about Ballmer.

    Ballmer:
    https://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/08/23/best-of-ballmer/#.tnw_9A6U6XU1
    https://www.computerworld.com/artic...-tech-s-worst-ceo--how-long-can-he-last-.html
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamha...co-ge-walmart-sears-microsoft/3/#71da9a69783d

    Nadella:
    https://www.thestreet.com/slideshow...ella-here-are-his-6-biggest-achievements.html
    http://www.businessinsider.com/10-best-stories-from-satya-nadella-2015-12
    http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-employees-love-satya-nadella-2016-10

    I won't argue that Ballmer had a commanding presence and a certain enthusiasm, but he is on record as having one of the worst CEO approval ratings for a major corporation and, on one occasion, he even went so far as throwing a chair across the room when in disagreement with someone.
     
  5. convergent

    convergent Scribbler - Standard Member

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    I don't have any insider information, but I can say that has a long time tech industry professional, I had no interest in Microsoft products, moved all in to Apple, and found Windows horrible to work in... under Ballmer. Now, a few years under new leadership, I no longer use a Mac and am slowly moving out of the Apple ecosystem, and I'm genuinely excited about where Microsoft is headed.

    Microsoft was headed downhill under the old leadership and is making a very difficult transition of a very large organization, and doing very well with it currently. Look around at some other big organizations that have had to make fundamental shifts in their business model... IBM, Kodak, HP, etc.. I would say current leadership is doing well.
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    For those interested: Ars Technica Liveblog: Satya Nadella lays out Microsoft’s vision at Ignite starting Monday 9am ET
     
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    jhoff80 Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    I don't think I ever claimed Ballmer should have stayed in charge. I already described two monumental failures... and besides that, it was time for a change. But Nadella is getting a ton of credit for initiatives that were already under way, and he's squandered a lot of it while making great short-term business decisions that are bad for consumers in the long-term. I have no doubt that Microsoft will continue to make money, but as a cloud guy himself, it's no surprise that Nadella is turning towards Azure and big data / machine learning instead.

    Anyway, Bergman's implied secondary complaint that this is way off-topic is probably correct, and that's mostly my fault (and the initial comment I quoted)... so while I could probably go on, I'll leave it alone anyway. :D
     
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    soh5 Surface or Bust Senior Member

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    So does this really mean LTE on surface Pro is the only thing?
     
  10. Steve S

    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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    <<...So does this really mean LTE on surface Pro is the only thing?..>>

    ...Thurrott is arguing that either Microsoft has completely ruined the suspense surrounding the London Event, or they have something else of high significance up their sleeve...
     
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