List of Windows 8 and RT tablets and convertibles with stylus

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  1. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    This post lists current Windows tablets, hybrids, and convertibles with active digitizer, meaning they support precise drawing and writing (inking) with a stylus. A spreadsheet listing all options is included for quick comparison of the most important features. The list was started at the time of the IFA in 2012, but has been updated to include more recently released devices. Feel free to make suggestions if any new models are missing from the list!

    Update: as of 10-2013 we have a new 'excel sheet editor'! Thanks to Mesosphere for helping out.
    Update 2: For thoughts on the performance of different digitizer technologies, see this recent thread.


    Detailed info including price, weight, memory, etc on this page:
    http://sdrv.ms/PVks0T. <--- :hi2: - More info at the link!


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    CURRENT GENERATION MODELS
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    Windows 8 with stylus, Intel Core-M, detachable keyboard:
    - Lenovo Helix 2 - 11.6" 1920x1080 specs
    - Dell Latitude 13 - 13.3" 1920x1080 specs
    - HP Envy x2 13 - 13.3" 1920x1080 product page
    - HP Envy x2 15 - 15.6" 1920x1080 product page

    Windows 8 with stylus, 4th gen core-i, detachable keyboard:
    - HP Pro x2 612 - 12.5" 1920x1080 hands-on Specs
    - Surface Pro 3 - 12" 2160x1440 Store link / TPCR thread
    - Fujitsu Stylistic Q704 / Arrows Tab QH77 - 12.5" 1920x1080 Specs
    - Dell Venue 11 Pro - 10.8" 1920x1080 Hands-on Specs
    - VAIO Tap 11 - 11.6" 1920x1080 Specs
    - Surface Pro 2 - 10.6" 1920x1080 Specs
    - Toshiba Portege Z10T (i5/i7) 11.6" 1920x1080 Models Most models have 3rd gen processor
    - Getac F110 (rugged) - 11.6" 1366x768 specs
    - Motion Computing R12 - 12.5" 1920x1080 specs

    Windows 8 with stylus, 4th gen core-i, fixed keyboard:
    - Acer Aspire R13 - 13.3"; 2560x1440 Review
    - Fujitsu Lifebook T904 - 13.3" 2560x1440 Specs
    - Fujitsu Lifebook T734 - 12.5" 1366x768 Specs
    - Dell XPS 11 - 11.6" 2560x1440 Hands-on Specs
    - Sony VAIO Duo 13 - 13.3" 1920x1080 Specs Review
    - Acer Aspire R7-572 - 15.6" 1920x1080 Specs
    - Vaio Fit 13A Flip PC - 13" 1920x1080 Specs
    - Vaio Fit 14A Flip PC - 14" 1920x1080 Specs Versions without digitizer exist
    - Vaio Fit 15A Flip PC - 15" 2880x1620 Specs Versions without digitizer exist
    - Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga - 12.5" 1920x1080 specs (pdf) / info Versions without digitizer exist
    - Getac V110 (rugged) - 11.6" 1366x768 specs

    Windows 8 with stylus, 3rd gen Atom:
    - HP Pavilion X2 - 10.1" info
    - Toshiba Encore 2 Write - 8" or 10"TPCR thread / blog post
    - Lenovo ThinkPad 10 Tablet - 10.1", 1920x1200 TPCR thread Specs
    - Asus VivoTab Note 8 - 8", 1280x800 press release / manual
    - Fujitsu Stylistic Q584 / Arrows Tab QH55 10.1" 2560x1600 Specs
    - Dell Venue 11 Pro - 10.8" 1920x1080 Hands-on Specs
    - Dell Venue 8 Pro - 8" 1280x800 Hands-on Specs
    - HP ProPad 600 - 10.1" 1920x1200 Blog post Specs
    - HP ElitePad 1000 - 10.1" 1900x1200 Specs

    Windows 8 with stylus, Intel Pentium:
    - Vaio Fit 11A Flip PC - 11.6" 1920x1080 blog post

    Windows RT with stylus:
    - None!


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    OLDER GENERATIONS
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    Windows 8 with stylus, 3rd gen core-i, detachable keyboard:
    - Microsoft Surface Pro (i5) 10.6" 1920×1080 Specs
    - Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro 700T (i5) 11.6" 1920x1080 Specs
    - Lenovo ThinkPad Helix (i7) 11.6" 1920x1080 Specs Versions without digitizer exist
    - Fujitsu Stylistic Q702 (i3/i5) - 11.6" 1366x768 Specs
    - Kupa UltraNote X15 (i5/i7) 10.1" 1920x1080 Specs
    - Toshiba Portege Z10T/WT310 (i3/i5/i7) 11.6" 1920x1080 Specs Z10T / Specs WT310 Versions without digitizer exist
    - Panasonic FZ-G1 Toughpad - 10.1" 1920x1200 Specs
    - Wacom Cintiq Companion - 13.3" 1920x1080 Specs

    Windows 8 with stylus, 3rd gen core-i, fixed keyboard:
    - Fujitsu LifeBook T732 (i3/i5/i7) - 12.5" 1366x768 Specs
    - Fujitsu LifeBook T902 (i5/i7) - 13.3" 1600x900 Specs
    - HP Elitebook Revolve (i3/i5/i7) 11.6" 1366x768 Specs
    - Sony VAIO Duo 11 slider (i3/i5/i7) 11.6" 1920x1080 Specs
    - ASUS Taichi 21 (i5/i7) Dual 11.6" 1920x1080 Specs
    - ASUS Taichi 31 (i5/i7) Dual 13.3" 1920x1080 Specs

    Windows 8 with stylus, 2nd gen Atom:
    - Samsung Ativ Smart PC 500T 11.6" 1366x768 Specs No pen on Canadian version
    - Samsung Ativ Tab 3 - 10.1" 1366x768 Hands-on
    - Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2 10.1" 1366x768 Specs Versions without digitizer exist
    - ASUS 810 / Vivo Tab 11.6" 1366x768 Specs
    - Dell Latitude 10 10.1" 1366x768 Specs
    - HP Envy x2 11" 1366x768 Specs Pen availability unclear
    - HP ElitePad 900 10.1" 1280x800 Specs

    Windows 8 with stylus, AMD Z60:
    - Fujitsu Stylistic Q572 Date? 10.1" 1366x768 Specs

    Windows RT with stylus:
    - None!


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    RUMORED AND PROTOTYPES
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    Various CPU generations:
    - Vaio prototype 2014, 12.3" 2560x1704 (3:2) Quad-Core CPU with Iris Pro GPU promo page
    - Sharp RW-16G1 Core i5 15.6" 3200x1800 blog post
    - Toshiba 5-in-1 hybrid blog post
    - Samsung Ativ Q - 13.3" 3200x1800 Hands-on Delayed or canceled



    Brief comments on typical differences between Intel Core and Atom systems:

    Atom based systems are typically $300-400 cheaper, are lightweight, have long battery life (8-10h or so), run cool, don't need a fan, and support connected standby. On the downside, they come with Win8 32bit 'basic', are less powerful, have weaker graphics capabilities, typically (always?) use slower and smaller eMMC storage, hold only up to 2GB RAM, don't support USB3, typically have low res screens and can't output to external screens at as high resolution. They may also have more bugs to work out since the hardware is newer. Note: there are different Atom chip generations. The 2nd gen is capable handling Win 8 smoothly, but the 3rd gen performs a TON faster, so get that if you can.

    Intel Core based systems are typically $300-400 more expensive, almost half a pound heavier, have 4-5h battery life (3rd gen, or 6-9h 4th gen), can run hot when pushed, have a fan and vents, and do not support connected standby. On the positive side, they come with up to Win8 Pro 64bit, are as powerful as many current desktop systems, have better graphics than the Atom systems, use fast SSD storage with more drive space, can hold 8GB or more RAM, typically have at least one USB3 port, often have 1080p screens, and I suspect they can output high resolution video. They will likely have fewer driver problems because the hardware is more mature. Note: 4th generation Intel Core i processors typically have similar computing power to 3rd gen versions, but their battery life can be over 50% longer under light use (browsing, Word doc editing, email, etc).


    Below an (outdated) partial image from the excel sheet at http://sdrv.ms/PVks0T. Full up-to-date table contains info on weight, ports, digitizer, etc

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  2. k.adhiputra

    k.adhiputra Pen Pal - Newbie

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    HP had also just released the envy x2 which is basically an Asus vivo

    Sony also has their VAIO duo 11 which has a slider keyboard

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  3. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Thanks, I added both.
     
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    k.adhiputra Pen Pal - Newbie

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    And don't forget Asus' 810/ vivo tab that runs full windows as opposed to the rt version, also running atom

    Edit: I also just remembered the Lenovo think pad tablet 2 released last month. Can't quite remember the specs

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    The Vivo Tab RT does not have an active digitizer. Unfortunately, not a single Windows RT tablet with an active digitizer has been announced as of yet. I was hoping that Samsung would introduce a Note 10.1 running Windows RT, but they haven't done so.

    It does make me wonder if vendors are just trying to keep costs down by only including touch and a 1366x768 display in their RT products, or if Windows RT doesn't support an active digitizer or higher resolutions at this time. I hope it's just the former.
     
  6. Steve B

    Steve B Moderator Moderator

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    It would be nice to have this updated as we get more info. For example, it would be great to know in shorthand if the stylus is Wacom nor not. The inclusion of a possible keyboard is an important note as well. You've noted the Full Windows vs. RT distinction, as well as i5 versus atom versus RT for the processor, which is great though. But wacom and keyboard matter to me a lot as well. Just a thought.

    For example, I was wondering if these Asus tablets were N-Trig or not.????

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    Wow, it appears the Vivo tablets are Wacom, which is great. If you're looking for an Atom powered Win8 computer with Wacom, these fit the bill in a lot of ways. Neat!
     
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  7. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Thanks, I was debating between keeping it legible and adding necessary info. Personally the main things I'd like to add
    - physical design
    - digitizer manufacturer
    - screen size, resolution
    - weight with and without keyboard
    - battery life with and without dock

    I'll try to keep the list updated as we learn more / as you guys tell me more.
     
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  8. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    OK, I could have sworn that the Vivo Tab RT does have a pen, but jhoff80 says no. I found the Ars article that claims it does, but maybe they got it wrong.
     
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  9. Pianomanos

    Pianomanos Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Do Fujitsu's "Windows 8 Ready" tablets that are out now count? Come to think of it, where's all the Japanese companies, except Sony? Haven't heard anything from Toshiba or Panasonic, and Fujitsu seems to be doing no marketing at all for their tablets. I wonder what's going on... They all seem content to miss the Windows 8 bus.
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    @Pianomanos, I think so, I'm trying to keep the list is limited to those that have been 'designed for Win8/RT' which the Fujitsu seems to be.
     
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    If you recheck that Ars article:

     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    @jhoff80 Well shoot, you're right. That means the search for an RT tablet with Wacom is still on.

    Edit: Asus press release mentions nothing about Wacom for the RT version, so that's pretty definite. ASUS
     
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    Surface Pro is not Wacom. It's either N-Trig or the new company that MS bought. Probably the new company.
     
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    Nobody knows that for sure. It's almost 100% not N-Trig though, considering that the pen can actually be flipped to use the eraser, and no N-Trig device can do that.

    I still think just based on look alone that the tip looked like a Wacom one, but I'm curious why you say that it's definitely not.
     
  16. Steve S

    Steve S Scribbler - Standard Member Super Moderator

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    <<...Nobody knows that for sure...>>

    ...However, what we can say is that when the Surface display features were described, that description was identical to descriptions on the Perceptive Pixel website:

    "...In an industry first at this scale, we’ve optically bonded the sensor to the display....Near-zero parallax and ultra-low latency combine to deliver a completely natural touch experience..."

    Welcome | Perceptive Pixel

    You are correct, though, in the sense that until the actual production product appears, we won't know if Microsoft stuck with this initial choice...
     
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    Maybe Samsung Ativ Tab RT(or what ever it's called) will have Wacom pen support, seeing as they make the Galaxy Note 10.1 with a wacom digitizer.
     
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    Yeah, at this point I'm leaning towards it being that too, I was just curious why he said definitely not Wacom. Like I said, the only one I think it's almost definitely not is N-Trig, myself.
     
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    You could make a case for adding the Fujitsu t902 and the Lenovo x230t, which are Windows 8-ready convertibles that were recently released and are shipping with Windows 7. I think they're both i3/i5/i7.
     
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    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    @Pianomanos: Those two models are still great choices for Win8, but I'm trying to limit the list to 'next gen' tablets and slates designed with Win8 in mind. Don't let that stop you from suggesting alternative choices though, it's still useful info.
     

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