Lenovo ThinkPad X380 Yoga discussion thread

Discussion in 'Lenovo (IBM)' started by JoeS, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. Starlight5

    Starlight5 W I N T E R B O R N

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    @cutterline waiting for L380Y review, yeah. Lesser battery capacity and lack of WWAN are somewhat disappointing, though, and it seems to have PWM too - might as well wait for 390.
     
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  2. cutterline

    cutterline Scribbler - Standard Member

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    If only they were to make a proper AMD APU version.... and not gimped like we've seen so far.
     
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  3. cutterline

    cutterline Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Yoga L380 review is out

    Screen is the same as X380 but has different PWM. It's pretty much on how you value TB3, battery power, and future RAM upgrade.

    I dislike how they make the mini ethernet port a thing.
     
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  4. Steve B

    Steve B Moderator Moderator

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    If they would just released this as a 15 inch device I’d be perfectly happy with the limitations of he cheaper device. I need a trackpoint and a pen, but I’d like it to be much bigger than 13 inches. Lenovo released that size with the 720, but they just won’t do it with the Thinkpads yet. Not really sure why.
     
  5. ibmthink

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    They had a 15" Thinkpad Yoga, but I don't think it was a success – otherwise, they wouldn't have canceled this series.
     
  6. Steve B

    Steve B Moderator Moderator

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    That’s true- although it never featured pen support.

    But they actually sell a 15” Yoga now with pen support. It seems so weird not to have a 15” Thinkpad counterpart to the consumer line (as I need a trackpoint as well). Particularly as other manufacturers are now pushing into the 15” penabled convertible space.
     
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  7. cutterline

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    Probably too niche of a market. 15+" is already nearing mobile workstation , in that case, you can just use a proper keyboard etc. 720 is for creators, casual, and alike which mostly stationary and thinkpad is more for business and military spec which is more mobile. Most of the market of thinkpad user probably doesn't like/need this form factor.

    Just hope they can make a breakthru at display, weight, or battery. Maybe we will one day see convertible pen thinkpad 15 and above
     
  8. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Lisa's review is up, has been for a few days actually!
     
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    inst_bb Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Hi all, long-time-lurker, first-time-poster here. Recently got an X380 to replace my venerable X230t, and while testing the pen using the latest Wintab Utility drivers (7.5.2.24) I find that one out of approximately every 30 strokes is not registered, particularly when I'm writing or drawing quickly. Worse yet, every few minutes or so the pen stops making strokes altogether for about 10 seconds, and pressing the pen down during this time leads to a fat, laggy stroke appearing randomly on the other side of the screen. This happens regardless of whether my palm is touching the screen, and happens in laptop or tablet orientation. It also happens both with the pen that comes with the laptop and with my Wacom Bamboo Ink. Weirdly, installing the old Wacom Feel drivers (7.3.4-47) on the laptop corrects the problem - I don't encounter any missing or vectoring strokes. But of course that driver isn't compatible with Lenovo Pen Settings, so I can't change the pressure or map the buttons.

    Any fellow X380 owners here encounter this problem? Is this a known Lenovo Thinkpad, or maybe even Wacom AES issue?
     
  10. cbutters

    cbutters Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Well... I decided to join the party. Slim pickings on this thread over the last year it looks like though.

    I've been so involved with surface devices that I hadn't really paid too much attention to thinkpads lately. I had been paying attention to the X1 Yoga, but testing the 14" in the microsoft store; I just found it too big. I assumed the regular 13.3 thinkpad yogas would be even bigger and chunkier than the premium and lightweight x1 Yoga so I never gave them much thought.

    I'd actually sold my Surface Pro in favor of the Surface Go 8GB and it is wonderful for browsing and note-taking; I've loved the form-factor for that. I've been using it without much issue for several months now. Performance was good enough for what I had been using it for.... until it wasnt. I got into some 3D rendering with blender and unity projects and frankly the Surface Go can barely cut even running the program. Crap... what do I do now?. Do I rebuy the Surface Pro; or wait for the next surface refresh? Well.... I got thinking about the sweet sweet keyboards and trackpoints and siloed pens of my old Thinkpads and did a bit of research on what is out there.

    I was surprised this week finding out that the x380 w/ 13.3" screen was not only roughly the same sized chassis as the old TPY and 260 yogas; but also weighed about the same as the X1 yoga and was more compact. Also realizing Thunderbolt was an option that I could potentially use with the lenovo graphics dock or other egpus and w/ quadcore.... I decided to take the plunge on a i7 16GB 256GB lenovo outlet x380Y for ~1K. Should be here next week. I've got a nvme 1tb drive on the way as well to swap out. (nvme ssds are getting cheap! picked the 1TB up for $135)

    I know the X390Y is about to be released; but I'm not impressed with it. They did away with lift & Lock; Whiskey Lake isn't any sort of upgrade over Kaby Lake-R. Its a bit lighter I guess; but I really like the lift&lock feature, and the X380Y seems to be the best of all features that I'm interested in. That combined with a much lower price for the X380 as it seems they are trying to clear them out made this a no brainer for me; I'll drop my thoughts and experience once it gets here.
    Cheers.
     
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