Lenovo Thinkpad 10 Tablet Discussion Thread

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  1. spinedoc77

    spinedoc77 Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    The costs are on page 11 or 12 of this thread, brace yourself. Just the base version with no digitizer or pen, 64gb HD and 2gb ram is $725, contrast that with the Dell 11 at $499 among others. The version you think runs rings around the Dell, 4gb with digitizer/stylus is a whoppin $1220 !! At that point you are STILL getting an atom processor. I'd switch over to an i5 pretty quickly for that price.

    Don't get me wrong, I would love to have 4gb ram/128gb HD but to still have an atom processor for what is approaching TRIPLE the price just doesn't make sense. It's not that I can't afford it, there just seem to be better options for that price. Heck the Fujitsu q584 has 4gb ram/128hd/digitizer/pen and it's what like $850? I almost picked up a q584, but that awful power brick changed my mind. The TPT10 also has an awful power brick, and a proprietary charging cable to add insult to injury.

    There are some refurb Dell 11's with full warranties for under $400. I think I'll go that route and wait to see what the holidays bring.
     
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  2. Rebeljuice

    Rebeljuice Pen Pal - Newbie

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    I too shall be passing on this if those prices are true. I dont really know where Lenovo think they are going with this. How can the high spec tablet they make cost the same, if not more, than their own flagship Yoga model? Lets not forget the up and coming supply issues that will plague the launch just like the TPT2, Helix and the recent TP8.

    Ive just purchased a Venue 8 Pro. I am taking a chance on getting a decent digitizer and then Im going to sit back and wait for the next gen atoms. Hopefully with the free Windows 8.1 on small devices and an even better SOC we may start to see real value for money and not so much cost cutting and poor build quality to squeeze into a price bracket. Then again, we may just see yet another race to the bottom and get even cheaper $150 tablets plagued with the same issues we see today. Perhaps the real value for money is in the iCore tablets afterall.
     
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    Toyo-X Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Sorry, can't believe that the pictures are showing the thinkpad tablet 10. To me, it looks like a mix between shots from the Helix and the back of the Tablet 8...
     
  4. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    I thought those prices in post 107 were direct euro to dollar conversions. If so the price of the cheapest model with digitizer (20C1001DPB) listed as $915 is actually about 660 Euro. Is that not what those prices were?
     
  5. Bloody Nokia Adept

    Bloody Nokia Adept Trackpoint Diehard

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    You're absolutely right and I'm confirming that!

    Let me double-post the listing with prices both in euro and dollars just in case if rule "1 eur = 1 usd" is still in place

    [20C30008PB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $725 €525
    Intel Atom Z3795, 2GB, 64GB, WiFi, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, Win 8.1 with Office H&S, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

    [20C1000WPB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $885 €640
    Intel Atom Z3795, 2GB, 64GB, WiFi + WWAN, NFC, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, LTE, Win 8.1 with Office H&S, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

    [20C1001DPB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $915 €665
    Intel Atom Z3795, 2GB, 64GB, WiFi, Digitizer & Pen, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, Win 8.1 Pro, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

    [20C1000RPB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $1065 €775
    Intel Atom Z3795, 2GB, 64GB, WiFi + WWAN, NFC, Digitizer & Pen, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, LTE, Win 8.1 Pro, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

    [20C1000YPB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $1150 €835
    Intel Atom Z3795, 2GB, 64GB, WiFi + WWAN, NFC, Digitizer & Pen, Thinkpad 10 Ultrabook Keyboard, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, LTE, Win 8.1 Pro, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

    [20C1000MPB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $1220 €885
    Intel Atom Z3795, 4GB, 128GB, WiFi + WWAN, NFC, Smart Card Reader, Digitizer & Pen, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, LTE, Win 8.1 Pro, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, FingerPR, Smart Card reader, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

    Based on euros and using "1 eur = 1 usd", how are those prices now?
     
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  6. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    If the 1 euro = 1 usd holds those prices are about as you'd expect. If 1 euro = 0.1 usd those prices are great! :)
     
  7. nobackup

    nobackup Pen Pal - Newbie

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    and if you just try

    Lenovo Tablet TPad10 Tablet/Z3795 4GB 128GB 10.1"W 20C1000MPB- www.ps.com.pl Sklep Komputerowy Wroc³aw

    you well find they are quoting 4021.00 PLN = € 960.25 = $1,325.40*

    I find that sites just speculate on the cost or try to get the early adopter ;( so I would wait until its actually released before complaining about the cost as these prices are all speculation ..

    example

    One site in Germany stated that the Thinkpad Yoga i5 Digitiser 8GB 256GB SSD would cost €1900 !!! same site now after launch its only €1.499,00* (Including TAX)

    Also all costs stated on EU sites need to INCLUDE sales tax which can be unto 25% depending on where is quoted from ! so the stated €885 could actually be €705 which is $973 if converted at the bank rate even better if we take $1 = €1
     
  8. spinedoc77

    spinedoc77 Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Maybe, but now much lower than "retail" can the prices be? A HD resolution tablet with a digitizer and Baytrail should not cost more than $499 in today's day and age. Will Lenovo's $915 purported price really filter down to $499? I think it's more likely to be $700-ish and that's still grossly overpriced.
     
  9. dceggert

    dceggert Owner of a TabletPC Museum Senior Member

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    Yes and no on being overpriced. For a straight up device that you can use on the couch, well, yes, but sometimes the extra cost is for waterproofing so it can be used outside in any weather (Motion, Fujitsu, Panasonic), or Mil spec for drops and rough environments such as dust, oil, extreme heat or cold (HP, Fujitsu, Motion, Panasonic), or specialty solutions like point-of-sale add-ons (HP, Motion). So, it all depends on the device and what you need in it.

    I was once sitting in my Lazy Boy recliner reading a book and had my Q702 on my lap taking notes at times on the book contents (doing research in my favorite research chair). While engrossed in the pages of the book our new-to-us rescue cat decided to practice pouncing lessons on my leg. Needless to say I stood up rather quickly and watched my Q702 fly approximately 5 to 6 feet at face level and land on the hard wooden floor and slide, face down, for several more feet. Not a scratch or dent on it. By contrast, my Foster Daughter bought an Acer laptop because it was cheap (I advised her to buy a business class HP or Thinkpad but she said they were too expensive). About 1 week into owning it she picked it up off the desk by a corner of the screen (like I do all the time) and the screen cracked. The cost, plus the cost of repair, far exceeded the cost of the tougher laptop she should have bought. Now, one year later, her screen is cracked again but this time she has left it like that.

    My point is that yes, they seem expensive, but in the days of $700 smart phones with a free OS, how expensive is a 10" tablet at $1,000 with a full OS, able to do all that we want it to do, and survive a drop while skidding across the floor?

    Just presenting the opposite side to keep people thinking....
     
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  10. soh5

    soh5 Wait and Hope (Bronsky et al.) Senior Member

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    People have been too spoiled by the $299USD 8" windows tabs, but it is pricey for what it is... an atom cpu device (which was meant to be a budget processor mind you). To be quite honest, it is really hard to get serious work done on less than a 11.6" screen. 10" for me personally is too limiting to do a lot of my research, but its a perfect form factor for reading pdf's since I wont have to pinch and zoom in/out as much.

    Im finding the 2 device solution to fit the bill quite nicely, now that its fully setup. 8" windows tab for reading documents (i dont print scholarly articles/pdfs anymore, less paper and toner waste), while doing a lot of my day to day work on my Thinkpad.
     
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