iPad Pro 12.9 Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Apple/iOS' started by AveSharia, Sep 9, 2015.

  1. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Thinking more about it, it might simply be an elegant way of distinguishing say grip changes from intentional tapping. That seems more like an Apple thing to do.
     
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    The inclusion of a capactive grid is interesting....but the real question is if its capable of touch function beyond registering taps.. or if it Apple would even let it....regardless if it could or not. But I would love to be able to resize a brush by way of a finger gesture on the pencil.
     
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  3. violajack

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    I have a 12.9 pro and zero (visual) art skills.

    1. I use it most for displaying sheet music in performance/rehearsal.

    2. I have tried off and on to see if really could replace my computer. Since everything I need can be done either in Chrome or in an app on either iOS or Android, I had used a Chromebook as my primary computer for a while. I thought I could easily do the same with Chrome on iOS on the iPad. But inevitably it would fall flat on some task or other than was just completely not doable on the iPad. Usually, something to do with printing to a PDF then sending it to someone, or opening a ZIP to get a single file out of it, or like today when I thought I should answer this question from the iPad and then see how far I could get using it today, but got nowhere because I needed a file off a CD. So general software road blocks would be the most disappointing thing.

    On a side note, I have the logitech keyboard case with a kickstand and it makes the thing into an oversized surface pro with a fantastic pen experience. The keyboard has a good feel too (coming from someone who is currently typing on a classic thinkpad). So if it weren't for the road blocks in workflow, I'd be happy to use it as a primary device.
     
  4. Steve B

    Steve B Moderator Moderator

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    Yeah, I tried an iPad Pro a few months ago. They're lovely. I wish it had a full desktop browser though. That's one of the big shortcomings for me. I need to run the backend of stuff like Squarespace or the online version of Sketchup Pro, and I can't from the iPad currently, even if I force load the desktop version. I either need some of these companies to make an appropriate touch-friendly app (totally doable by squarespace, but not there yet), or I need a desktop-compatible browser and some sort of mouse/ trackpad compatibility (or using the pencil?).

    A lot of other stuff I can get away with just fine. Text selection for real longform writing is also hard though.

    I wonder if some compatability stuff will come into existence with the type-c port on the new ones? I tried the new pen, btw- a clear improvement in balance, friction, and pen "feel" IMO. Amazing that the 12.9" tablet is only 1.4 lbs.
     
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  5. doobiedoobiedum

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    Such a good point. For a long while, there was the perception of the iPad as a toy and though Apple has largely addressed this from the hardware side, it's really only those whose very specific needs are met by the iPad or those happy and willing to spend £Kx2 on more than one computer that can see the point.

    I was originally a huge defender of the iPad but now I can't do that anymore. Apple won't change iOS until the market forces it but iPads sell really well - there's no getting away from that.
     
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    Yeah, the problem is Microsoft keeps seeing that success and dumbing down their working stylus system to match.
     
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  7. AveSharia

    AveSharia Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Thanks to a generous girlfriend (I assume I did something right!) I picked up a 12.9/256GB IPP for my birthday this weekend. It only took me three years and three months from starting this thread. :oops:

    Initial impressions are great. My desktop computer has been choking on my handwritten OneNote notes, and I had planned on moving to a different note taking ecosystem, but the IPP seems to not even stutter. The default Notes app is hot garbage- palm rejection was worse than no palm rejection at all. The OneNote app actually lets you choose your hand orientation. Cool stuff. I might still try GoodNote or Paper to see if I can't find something that can organize a couple hundred pages of notes, without losing pressure sensitivity.

    My first real power session was studying for a Chemistry exam last night. The ipad doesn't ship with a calculator for some reason, but apparently you can download third party calculators that will float over OneNote/Acrobat/Safari so I didn't have to keep suspending my main window to do quick calculations.

    Also, all the heartburn I had about whether the 12.9" would be too heavy seems just silly, in retrospect. The thing weighs nothing.

    I'll have to check the YouTube video resolution when I get home- it never even occurred to me it might be capped because I've never had a >1080p device.
     
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  8. AveSharia

    AveSharia Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Dug into this yesterday, and you're right: No YouTube 4K on iOS. Apparently Apple and Google have a difference of opinion about video codecs, which of course always leads to a great consumer experience. Bummer.

    I will say that every time I launched a "4K" video I told myself "Wow this is gorgeous! Surely this one must actually be 4K!" before looking at the options and seeing "1080p (max available)." Supposedly some other video providers will supply 4K video using Apple's codec, but I didn't get too deep into it. I tried Amazon Prime Video, but didn't see any quality options or indicator of what resolution I was actually viewing.

    I still need to try PLEX, Vimeo, Twitch, etc. I spent almost the entire evening last night just downloading apps!
     
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  9. AveSharia

    AveSharia Scribbler - Standard Member

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    So far I'm in love, but it's still the honeymoon, right? We just picked it up Saturday. It's just a gorgeous slice of metal. It feels impossibly thin. It's actually 1.7 mm (so like 20%) thinner than my damned cell phone. I'm still on a Note 5, so that's probably not that impressive anymore.

    It's definitely a super painless content consumption device. It's tough to not just pick it up and click YouTube and start tooling around. I'm getting used to the whole no-home-button thing, which causes some frustrations. It has been a learning process getting iOS to understand whether I want to just pull up the app bar, or switch apps, or close the app I'm in.

    I do a lot of copying and pasting a problem into my notes, then solving it with the pencil. I wish there was a better way to snip a part of the screen with a screenshot in iOS. Right now its:
    1. Push the volume up and power buttons simultaneously,
    2. Click the screenshot preview,
    3. Crop to where I want it,
    4. "Share" to the clipboard,
    5. Exit/delete the screenshot,
    6. Swipe/Multitask to OneNote,
    7. Change to the text tool,
    8. Long press to bring up the context menu,
    9. Click paste,
    10. Resize to my liking.
    ...which is a lot of clicks for something that could hypothetically be, I dunno... 4 instead? It's still miles easier than it ever was using the snipping tool in Windows' tablet mode with a stylus. ::shudder:: Siddhartth posted some videos of a couple iOS apps in the "Are you buying..." thread that might make this a little easier.

    As for use cases, I got it to replace my Helix (gen 1) for note-taking (class and work) and drawing/painting (fun). So far I've done quite a bit of scratch-note-taking for my Chem final, but I won't really put it through its paces until I start up classes again on 1/9. I was thinking about trying to transfer some of my OneNote stuff to some more iOS friendly app, and I'll probably try to get a workflow sorted out between now and then.

    I bought and downloaded Procreate, which I have used a bit on my girlfriend's old 10-inch iPad. It's going to take some getting used to. Heretofore I had used Photoshop CC on my Helix, which is pretty tough to beat from a brush engine standpoint. I am really looking forward to trying to exploit tilt/barrel rotation.
     
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  10. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    I don't use OneNote on my iPhone, but in step 4, in addition to "share to clipboard" I also see an option Share to OneNote (can be enabled under 'More' in the share sheet). Does that not work?
     
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