ipad mini 5 on the way

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  1. doobiedoobiedum

    doobiedoobiedum Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Yup. I like the innovations Microsoft show in their future tech videos - if only they would do something about making AES as good in feel as EMR. Wacom upped their game with edge drift and accuracy but it's time to really develop the trig technology.

    However, strangely, the mobile phone apps that once looked like the future are holding the technology they sit on back. Android which was the agreement by phone makers for a joint OS to rival iOS should be dumped but is Chrome really the future? Everyone outside Apple knows iOS as it is has huge faults that Apple seem unwilling to change or deal with while people keep buying the existing iPads.

    I'd like the idea more if there wasn't a great big line halfway across the screen. A screen that unrolls - yes, a screen that folds or two screens with a big black line down the middle - not for me. You couldn't write notes or draw art over the middle 3/4 inch of your screen.
     
  2. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    THIS is what really gives me hope for a revitalized iPad Mini 5. Apple knows that Samsung (thank you Dr. Kuo) is marketing this as a tablet that you can fold up into a phone. Apple will not have a folding device until 2020 or later. The Galaxy X/F is going to come in at $1500-$1800 (some say north of $2000 depending upon SSD). So this Spring Apple drops an 8" iPad Mini with A10X and Apple Pencil support for $450 (64gb), $550 (128gb), and $689 (128gb + LTE) as a challenge to the fablet - that's almost too Apple to be true, but I think this is where the battle is headed in the short run.

    And I get my moleskin companion for my GB12...awesome...:cool:
     
  3. bloodycape

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    Problem with that would be pen tech would be different between the GB12 and iPad Mini.
     
  4. doobiedoobiedum

    doobiedoobiedum Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Honestly, no - I look at Microsoft's future tech videos and apparently their videos are always very close to life in where Microsoft is heading with their product line. Microsoft has been in the hardware game far less time than Apple and have innovated far more. The latest Microsoft future tech video includes a roll up type screen and remember LG has recently demoed a 64 inch roll up screen.



    Bigger screens are more complex to create using all this new tech so I don't believe the 10-20 inch portable screen will be that much harder. For one - a 64 inch screen has a lot of weight to be supported when it unrolls horizontally and you need the fancy box and mechanism LG showed. A portable device would be quite different and not need the weight and complex structure.

    I don't think it'll be like a soft vinyl / rubber sheet yet but I think these devices are on the way.

    Would you not want a 7 inch portable tablet with stylus that you could ALSO unroll into a 13-14 inch screen?
     
  5. wytn

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    Hey, maybe it's not the more appropriate topic but...

    I'd been waiting for an iPad Mini 5 / refresh too. i don't see them at best refreshing (even silently) before april when they possibly refresh the iPad 2018. As i didn't see Apple adding the Pencil 2 before the normal iPad model for instance....

    Now i don't know much if the new Apple Pencil improves many things...

    And i wonder now also if the Apple Pencil 2 could remain an iPad Pro "exclusive" thing for a little while. Perhaps not adding them right away to the iPad refresh or Mini 5.

    Is the Apple Pencil 2 worth it versus the first iteration? As of course they aren't retrocompatible... is there much of difference?

    I was almost ready to buy an iPad Mini 4 even if it's "old" now as i really need (or so i think/believe) a 8" device these days (not having too much times around my computers/etc for a while now), even with no pencil ('media' consumption use -> mostly ebooks / epubs / kindle app & browser & possibly a few other not resources hungry things.. so no drawing/no pencil), but as they're only selling a more expensive 128gb model (not worth it all for me for this use for an old model at this price for gigabytes i don't need), and around here i don't see any good deal even on a used iPad Mini 4 with 32gb...

    Around a month ago before the latest event i did go to a licensed Apple store to handle the old Mini and the 2018, finally test quickly the Apple Pencil... I was mostly interested in handling them both, knowing their weight, how would they each (Mini vs 2018) feel when holding them at eyesight level for reading...

    But with no refresh and missing a handy/practical device...

    I'm now tempted again to simply plunge for an iPad 2018 with 32gb and be done with it as they are found a little cheaper (300€ instead of 340/360€)

    So uhm, what are my questions... Yeah about the Pencil 2 i guess, i would feel really stupid again to buy now an iPad model which won't be compatible with the updated Pencil.
    I'm really not trusting Apple with the way they do update generally/etc. From hardware to software. I've had too many Apple things, mostly macbook pro's but also an iPad 1 & a Mac Mini. And for all my PC uses — that don't require drawing software — i've been back on Linux on Desktop & Laptop. i could enjoy/use Win10 more if they weren't doing that rolling/Freemium model, inspired by the worse aspects of both Google/Android & Apple (on the OS side). Which doesn't make things easier for me generally, to administrate etc... That and battery life that generally falls a bit short of my expectations/what i'd need. On the not-super-premium/expensive devices anyway.)

    So erm, do i have any actual questions? I guess about the Pencil 1 vs 2 techs... and I'm not sure actually.
    This has been bothering me for a while now as i lack a practical/handy really lightweight device when i don't carry heavier hardware. And even for reading stuff when i'm not at a desk. So many other things these days.

    (i'm still one of those that use/prefer a smartphone with a little display - had moved from an iPhone 5 to an iPhone SE - and i find myself using it more and more now being away PCs... Whereas generally / usually, i'd rather limit my use of such a device, not too many apps, only the minimum. I don't want to use my phone for reading too much etc. I don't want to carry a bigger phone either, not interested in that.)

    I guess the other thing/question is i wonder if buying an iPad 2018 would seem to make sense to you right now with a 1st iteration pencil... Any possible advice?

    So, well, just in case...
     
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  6. kneehowguys

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    So it seems like now we have a few excellent options

    1. Ipad mini 4 and deal with the god awful capactive styluses

    2. Old windows 8 cherry trail tablets with god awful performance and battery life

    3. Galaxy note 8.0 from 2014 and it's god awful slow processor/failing old batteries

    4. Wait for that new foldable galaxy F with that line in the middle which people say will screw up the pen if there even if one, amirite?

    5. Grow larger hands like 6'3 MKBHD. 10 inch tablets will feel like 8 inch tablets.

    6. Galaxy note 8/9 phones which imo are not large enough for pdf annotation

    7. Samsung's business 7 inch tablet with stylus with that god awful low res screen and heavy/bulky build for a 7 incher. Good luck trying to buy one though.

    7.5. Samsung's mythical 8 inch galaxy tab, not note, with stylus. Extremely hard to find.

    8. Onemix yoga 7 inch tablet has a stylus I believe- I doubt the experience will be better than the above though. Chunky/ probably not good battery.

    9. Hipster paper notepad, growing a beard, dressing with a plaid shirt like a lumberjack.

    Excellent options

    Actually you know option 1 and 7 don't seem that bad compared to the others.
     
  7. dstrauss

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    After five days with the Surface Go LTE my tune is changing a bit:
    • Even 10" is "small" for a lot of activities, including not taking, mark-up, and editing doc/xls files. Must be the old (even corrected) eyes
    • What is needed at this point, since MS, HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc are not going back (with limited exceptions) to Wacom, is an N-Trig capacitive "stick" that can be siloed.
    • Even if we get an iPad Mini 5, the current Apple Pencil is not the answer, and they will not give it the Pencil 2
    • I know many do, but I can't get by with the Note series - just too small of a canvas for my less than nimble fingers
     
  8. DRTigerlilly

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    i've been toying with the idea of a 2nd gen iPad Pro 10.5" + pencil but can't get past needing to charge the pen and the tap tapping on the screen even with a matte protector. I do think the apps are superior on iOS to Android (the only reason i'd go that route is for the S-pen)

    -battery life would be superior

    feels like you just can't win...
     
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  9. kneehowguys

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    Fear not, friends. In 2030 we will have a perfect 7-8 incher.

    And we'll drink to the good times we had dreaming of it.

    Stoneseeker will have his child lift the T902 for exercise until strong enough to carry the much lighter T904. Junior will poke non touch screens and say "Dad, it's broken!", living a life safe from the horrors of non touch screen macbooks, windows 8, and bay trail.
     
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  10. thierryb

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    The Slate 500 wanted to be the answer, but it was a nightmare (delay, quality).
    The AVN8 was an answer to our dream.
    Waou, I just realized it was in jan 2014. and we are not far of january 2019.
    But, neither Asus, Samsung give us a successor in five years.
    I eliminated Microsoft and HP because my dream is an EMR pen (with the same level of quality of an spen), with its silo.
     
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