I think HP made a great 2in1 that cost less than 600$

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  1. alisaad619

    alisaad619 Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Hi

    like most of you I like digital pen and convertible devices ,the Surface introduced me first to this concept and made me fall in love with it , and now 3 years after the surface started the OEMs started to make better and better 2in1 devices , but for sometime the OEMs did catch up to the surface at the high end , and making craps 2in1 devices at the mid range and low end

    late last year I bought the HP pavilion x2 10 for 350$ , it was kinda the best 2in1 under 400$ at that time , but that device suffered from a common issue among the midrange and low-end devices , a bad pen and bad screen aspect ratio

    a year later HP come out with pavilion x2 12 , the same concept and deign as the 10 inch version but with everything fixed , it have a better screen size and ratio , a better wacom AES pen , a better core m3 cpu , and a pen that is included in the box (with the core m3 version)

    now I feel like there's a great 2in1 option that I can recommend at the 600$ price point (the Surface 3 128gb cost 780$ so it's not at the same category )

    for me it check all the important boxes , 3:2 aspect ratio , 12 inch screen size , wacom AES pen , light tablet (1.6 lbs ) , good 1.5mm keyboard , and all the important ports (USB-c , USB-A , micro hdmi , microSD )


    the specs of the device

    Operating system: Windows 10 Home.

    Memory: 4 GB LPDDR3 SDRAM (onboard).

    Storage: 128GB solid-state drive.

    Processor: Intel Core m3-6Y30 Processor, Dual-Core (0.9 GHz up to 2.2 GHz, 4 MB cache).

    Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 515.

    Display: 12-inch diagonal WUXGA+ IPS WLED-backlit multitouch-enabled (1920 x 1280).

    Weight: 3.24 lb.

    Dimensions: 11.81 inches w x 8.66 inches d x 0.75 inches h (tablet and base).

    Wireless: 1x1 802.11ac WLAN and Bluetooth.

    Product color: Natural silver.

    a hands on video


    unboxing video



    the device link at amazon (569$)

    the device at walmart (599$)

    the device link at HP store (599$)

    very happy about this device and OEMs taking good 2in1s to lower price points , next we want a good 2in1 that cost less than 400$

    P.S , there is a 470$ atom x5 version of this device , but it look like it does not come with the pen in the box , so I think it's no-brainer to get the core m version for 100$ more you get double the ram and storage, a more powerful processor, and a pen. (Edit \ few people ordered the device and it shipped without the pen despite the fact that it's mentioned on HP website that it come in the box , and after contacting hp support they sent the pen for him , but they might not ship it for future buyers , the pen cost 59$ and is sold at HP store and bestbuy )
     
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    Jorari71 Pen Pal - Newbie

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    But did you try it with the AES Wacom superstylus?. In spain HP brings a stylus which is a CRAP (I could say a SH**) and I'm thinking about importing it because Wacom still doesn't sell it for Europe.

    Kind regards and thanks in advance.

    Jose.
     
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    it turned out that HP doesn't include the stylus for it in the US , and the new wacom stylus maybe will work and maybe not

    the HP stylus should be fine for onenote hand writing , but for art I don't know

    do you think the unit you tested is defected ?
     
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    Jorari71 Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Well...It's an option. And I think that first I will advice my brother to ask a replacement of the stylus. I can't believe that HP sells this crappy stylus.

    Maybe I order a stylus from the URL that you wrote here in this thread. THANK YOU!.

    Jose.
     
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    can you explain the issues with the stylus HP released in your country , keep in mind that sometimes it's crappy because an app doesn't support ink that well , so it depend on the apps + hardware , try the stylus with sketchable and onenote store version , and if you can share a picture of that stylus that would help

    this is the pen hp sell in the US for the pavilion x2 12 and spectre x2, but the picture is wrong , it does not have top button

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-acti...lver/4693400.p?id=1219801840144&skuId=4693400

    I hate the current state of wacom AES pens , you never know what is compatible with what , it's sad
     
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    Jorari71 Pen Pal - Newbie

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    The problems are that this stylus I don't know which technology is baed on but I think that is a synaptics one and presents problems of continuity drawing, lack of pressure and it's unable drawing a curve because draws segments of curves or rectilinear segments...It's horrible.

    I will send you a photo when I arrive at home.

    the applications tested on are: OneNote and FreshPaint. A few days ago I visit a stand in a Commerce where I could test a Surface Pro 4 with the same m3 processor and I tested both same applications and this (the N-trigger stylus of Microsoft) worked like a charm. It was awesome. It was so good that the Apple Pencil is at the same level of feeling. Unfortunatelly I could test it using MangaSutdio or Photoshop but it was the answer or what I expected to a device that costs 900€. The X2 12 can't be sold with this stylus...I would prefer that HP didn't sell this stylus...IT'S WORSE.

    And thisis what I find in the Wacom store:

    http://www.wacom.com/en-es/products/stylus/bamboo-smart-for-select-tablets-and-2in1

    There's no one in the cart option. :( . Anyway this stylus doesn't have the X2 12 among their compatible devices, no?.

    Kind regards and thanks for your answer.
     
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    got it , I think this device doesn't target art , they didn't even provide the wacom wintab driver , so most art programs will not work with hp pen , my experience with pens is for hand writing (for education) I still think the HP product is good for education but not for art , although if your art app is sketchable you can get better result with the HP pen .

    but for you , for art , you should consider cube i7 (affordable option) or surface (the expensive option)

    the wacom universal pen is not as universal as i though , so for now only get it if your device in the list .

    the spectre x2 pen and envy note 8 pen and the pavilion x2 12 pen , are the same pen , but HP is stupid enough to put the wrong picture (the picture is for the elite x2 pen)
     
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