HP ZBook Studio x360

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  1. nurbs

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    How many versions of Wacom's AES has been implemented in the past few years? Would it be the same version as the Bamboo Ink, or a newer revision?

    The x360 will be a large and expensive purchase, just want to be sure it works. Might walk into a Best Buy and test out the current pens they have on demo. Anyone know which tablet or 2-in-1 would have the latest Wacom AES tech?
     
  2. ATIVQ

    ATIVQ V⅁O⅄ Senior Member

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    Wait for the reviews if you want to be sure. I certainly will.

    The XPS 15 has Wacom AES 2.0 with tilt, but the tilt only works with the built-in Microsoft Paint 3D so far. AES is backward and forward compatible except for the very earliest devices that came out in 2015.
     
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  3. nurbs

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    Ah nice, thanks! Will go and check that out in person - Best Buy or Fry's should have it?

    The tilt is a funny thing, especially with reviews. Maybe not for every artist, but for working artists, the tilt is not a deal breaker. It's OK for sketching, I guess? But personally never user it. While drawing or painting, I always have one hand on the keyboard for shortcuts and brush size, which is more intuitive and way quicker. It's like the eraser part on a stylus. Many artists don't use it. Much quicker with keyboard shortcut to get to an eraser.

    And speaking of reviews -- and I understand most reviewers aren't artists --- but many of them don't go into much detail with the pens from the perspective of actual photoshop painting or drawing.
     
  4. Marty

    Marty Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Wooo.Which configuration are you thinking of getting? Mostly for 2D or 3D
    graphics work? Any plans for the Yoga once your new machine arrives?
     
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    HP's insane marketing machine, I think, lied to us in their initial 'leak' of the current-gen ZBooks, pitching the larger DreamColor monitor and the new-gen Wacom AES as though these things could possibly coexist. It's the much-lower-quality, touchscreen monitor only that will accomodate the pen that they advertise, and if you want both a quality monitor and even basic tablet-PC functionality you have to sacrifice somewhere.

    I won't even get into how they decided not to try to sell the other, nonconvertible ZBooks, with potentially better specs and a case design that at least kinda gives a **** about airflow, as potential pen-tablet workstations. I thought HP was really coming through with this one, only to discover that the best they can do is mediocre-display+AES+awful-'thin&light'-convertible. Even so, though, the specs are still a good deal better than you can get from anyone else; the Fujitsu is significantly more without the option of discrete graphics, and even they've gone to AES now, I think. Starting to think that if I wait for a strong-spec pen-tablet with workstation performance capability I'll be waiting forever, and I'm half tempted to just buy a to-spec gaming/perf 17" with the best monitor I can get as well as a Cintiq (or a decent Chinee knockoff)
     
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    First I have to convince myself something's wrong with the Yoga. Trouble is, it's a great machine and I'm not inclined to replace it. Dumping the T904 was easy because I never did get used to the fan whine and display air gap, and the Yoga was a huge upgrade in every aspect. Upgrading to the Studio x360 essentially only adds 10-bit color and full Adobe RGB coverage. The 10-bit color uses dithering so I might wait for a true 10-bit display.

    No graphics work, I just like a good-looking display.
     
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    Test
     
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    Soo the cooling does not look to promising. I assumed from first pics/renders (that never properly showed rear) that the vents on the side where intakes; and it would still have fan exahst in the rear.

    Well prepare for hot hands. The exhaust is from those vents on middle of keyboard area:
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    If that wasn't bad enough. It looks like the cooling could hardly be enough for 6 Cores + P1000 (between GTX 1050 and 1050ti performance)

    Unfortunately, but not unexpected, you have to choose between good battery capacity or 1/3 less battery with good storage:
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    I'm still rocking the Vaio Z Canvas for a little over 2 years now, the longest I've ever owned a device. I'm sold on the single device solution for my needs (desktop computer docked at home and notetaking device at school).

    I was interested in this machine, not because I NEED it, but because I want a new machine. I'm a little weary of it now based on a number of factors. Not sure if I should just stick with my ZC until it dies or recoup most of my money on eBay and get the X1 Yoga 2nd gen.
     
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    I'm kinda in the same boat as you.

    Love the OLED option on the X1 Yoga 2nd Gen, but do you really want to downgrade to a i7-7500U/i7-7600U? I don't think I could handle that.

    On the other hand, the cooling on the ZC is so well engineered, I'm hesitant to upgrade to any of the new 15/25W 8th gen CPUs without a lot of strenuous benchmarks coupled with fan noise reports (which are kind of hard to find).

    So basically, I'm stuck with a lot interesting options but nothing that blows me away. (Dammit VAIO just release the ZC2 already, and save me from my pain... :p)
     
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