HP Spectre x360 15" (early 2018) - 8th gen H-series class quad + AMD Vega Graphics!

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  1. milkytoast

    milkytoast Pen Pal - Newbie

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    I guess I will be waiting for this Intel AMD version after all. The seller ran out of refubished mx150 versions of the specter x360.

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    Hello all, I am a newb here and not as technically knowledgeable as you lot, but I have a solid base understanding (so, I am not your grandmothers second cousin level of knowledge....) . I will attempt to keep up with you and learn though. Apologies in advance for not speaking the lingo perfectly.

    I ordered early and received my intel/intel version of the new Spectre 15 x360 on Monday, mistakenly thinking it would be the top dog because of the D-GPU. I have the the 1TB /16G Ram/Win Pro with tilt pen options - basically the highest specification available. I didnt want to have to upgrade in the near future so paid retail up front to just get the best spec i could.

    I sucked up all the info i could on it, and felt confident I had made a relatively "future proof" purchase that would satisfy me for about 5 years. I need the numpad so my choices in the current market were limited especially for anything that was aesthetically pleasing.

    I didn't find the amazing info on this forum until today, so joined the site to join in the conversation. It was only last week I heard any meaningful info about the intel/amd mutt coming out, and didn't think much of it until early reports stated it would be a beast and knock the socks of the MX150 - at least from what i can understand. I do know the AMD chip isnt the 1060ti stablemate that it was first thought to be.

    Of course if anyone here has advice relative to the capabilities expected between the two - i am all ears.

    I used to believe AMD was the poor unwanted step child of the PCmaster race world so I was initially skeptical, and now a convert.... Alas, I had my unit on order already.... Damn....

    So, I am patiently waiting for the intel/amd model to launch and swap out. That means there will be at least one refurb coming on the market in the next few weeks...err lol??

    Initial impressions are limited as I haven't fully engaged in using this machine. I don't want to spend time setting it up to my specifications only to have to redo it, and also risk an accident and not being able to return it.

    There appears to be a ton of junk software and bloat on it. I have not received a consumer laptop in many years but nearly everything is pay to play to "enjoy" your trial period. I think a lot of basic functionality should be just F-ing built in the base price....like the markup/notepad function...I have to pay for that? Really? On a laptop that is touted heavily for it's pen functionality? Mac provide mark up free of charge and built in.....!

    I loathe in app purchases so i am certainly not the target audience for that kind of software. I haven't systematically gone through every single pre loaded thing, but will do so before long and delete as required i guess. I have not figured out clean install yet, that is the next tutorial i will learn.

    Damn it is heavy. Trade off for the power and capability I guess.

    Screen is really nice, of course. I haven't tested it to it's full capabilities as I have been out of the gaming world quite a long time. I also haven't had a chance to test in daylight or bright conditions - will do so more this weekend.

    I need to learn how to use the pen to the fullest of it's capabilities - going to hunt for tutorials etc. So far seems pretty responsive and totally useable for my needs (marking up PDFS and photos quickly for sharing among colleagues and clients etc.)

    Coming from a lenovo laptop - i think the keyboard is fine. I am not a professional typist or anything, but do type a lot for work (emails, some reports) and don't see myself being annoyed by it. The keys are more spread out than I am used to, so I am mis-striking quite often. I think that will change with practice/use and not be a problem in the long run. Integrated numpad is awesome, so pleased I waited to get this feature. There is only one level of keyboard back light, I prefer to have three levels (or at least 2), but not a deal breaker for me.

    Audio is the best i have heard on a laptop / beyond my expectations for a laptop so for casual viewing of movies and you tube - its totally useable. It is a little on the tinny side, but again, i haven't messed around with the settings to get it to where i want it.

    I haven't tested battery life yet, perhaps will learn more on this at the weekend.

    If i wanted to benchmark test it - are there free, non malware, apps or websites I can check out to do this, or do i need to buy specialist software?

    That's all for now. I will monitor this thread and report my findings for anyone interested.
     
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  3. dstrauss

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    @AdzLappy -welcome aboard and good luck with this adventure. On the "AMD question" it's my understanding that their graphics processors are better than their CPU's which is where their "poor unwanted step child" reputation came from. I think they may lag behind the top end Nvidia hardware, but I've never been a gamer so just wouldn't know. No one has pushed out one of the new Intel/AMD lovechild yet, so it may still be awhile, but rumor is still floating a post-3/18 release, which probably means pre-orders next Monday at most.
     
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    Thanks dellaster & dstrauss for the welcome!

    I forgot to mention:

    I will monitor fan noise and general heat issues for those interested as I am sure others who are receiving their units in the next few days will do so too.

    I did have one instance where the fan kicked on, for seemingly no reason and was way too loud. I freaked a little (thinking, oh no the dreaded fan noise issues that the OG Spectre had are still there) and monitored it for a few minutes, and it shut off. So I am keeping an eye on that for sure.
     
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    Whilst I await the order of the AMD version this thread is really about, I just wanted to note that I am experiencing feint coil whine under extremely light load when working on battery

    In a quiet environment it would be noticeable and possibly annoying to some - it certainly is for me.
     
  7. Alex Cealicu

    Alex Cealicu Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Thank you very much for the info. I have preordered the 8705G variant so for me any feedback will be gold until Sunday evening

    P.S. AMD - unwanted stepchild? I remember a time when AMD chips were all everyone wanted
     
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    It's up for sale now, starting at $ 1440: https://store.hp.com/us/en/Configur...Id=&catEntryId=3074457345618723818&quantity=1
    Same goes for the Dell XPS 15 2-in-1, starting at a similar price: http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell...?dgc=IR&cid=cs-newxps15-416398&lid=B1&ref=hbn

    The Dell XPS 15 is also available in germany now (starting at 1800 € o_O) but not the HP x360 with AMD Vega (as of this writing).
     
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  9. milkytoast

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    Nice. I thought I checked this webpage yesterday. I'll wait for the Mobile tech review before buying tho. With the potential heat issues, and Vega m performance. Plus Lisa usually gives a shot of the internals.

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  10. dstrauss

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    However, when you go upscale there is a HUGE price gap - the 16gb/1tb/Win10Pro version of the HP Spectre x360 15 is $2019; the same Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 is $2910:eek::eek:

    Now, hold on to your gag reflex, the same configuration from our friends at Microsoft for the 15" SB2...wait for it... $3399:eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Of course, that's not a fair apples to apples comparison, because the SB2 15 has a GTX 1060 dGPU. My readings say the AMD Radeon in the HP and Dell falls between the GTX 1050 in the SB2 13 and the GTX 1060 in the SB2 15, and of course there is that niggling little difference that THE SB 2 DOESN'T HAVE A SINGLE THUNDERBOLT 3 PORT, while the HP Dell he have two (40 lane each).:mad::mad::mad::mad:

    And yes, I am still ranting despite typing away on a SB2 13 that cost me $2544 on a serious Amazon deal day...:confused:o_O:oops:

    But. like the wimp I am, I'm staying with the SB2 13 because its smaller, lighter, and the Clipboard has turned out to be a very decent tablet for portable note taking...:oops::);)
     
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