HP Spectre x360 15" (early 2018) - 8th gen H-series class quad + AMD Vega Graphics!

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  1. MobileTechReview

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    I no longer have the AMD Vega Spectre x360 in house. However, I did test with the Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 (identical hardware platform as the HP), as mentioned in my Core X review, and I got a warning on the Dell that it would charge slowly (and it did charge). The Dell uses a 130 watt charger while the HP Spectre x360 Vega came with a 150 watt charger (I believe just to charge faster, not because it requires any more watts than the Dell).

     
  2. stormi

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    Yes, I know. It was just the fear that HP limited the Power Delivery capabilities because it is - other than the Dell - delivered with a classic barrel charger and my Thunderbolt dock also had issues charging the HP.
    But there is a new BIOS update (F.21) which I just installed and it coincidentally solved the charging issue :) And since the 87 W Apple USB-C charger is also working I'm quiet sure that other TB3 docks can now charge the Spectre with up to 100 W.
     
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  3. Itosken

    Itosken Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Hey @stormi, I just bought the Spectre x360 and am waiting on its arrival. Before it arrives, I just wanted to know whether you prefer the Bamboo Ink stylus or the default one?
    On top of that, is it normal to leave the laptop on to update an entire night during the first configuration duration?
     
  4. stormi

    stormi Scribbler - Standard Member

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    In germany the HP Spectre Vega edition is sold without the pen in the box for some reason. Thats why I bought the Bamboo Ink, so I can't compare them. I got it instead of the HP pen because it was cheaper, has interchangeable nibs and I like the idea of interoperability between N-Trig & Wacom AES.
    No, that's not necessary for a new notebook.
     
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    Fellow ZC'er, how are you liking the HP?
     
  6. stormi

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    So it's been a while now :p

    The performance, the display and the general design/build-quality are still excellent. And since more and more issues are getting worked out I'm getting used to it.

    The second-freezing display is gone since a few months now, other USB-C charging issues seem to be fixed with the latest BIOS update (F.23), I improved the audio by installing Equalizer APO which disabled the B&O crap, Intel is frequently releasing new RX Vega drivers (HP didn't update theirs a single time since release...) and I was able to unlock full power in tablet-mode by following a tip from an HP support forum post (link) - installing an older version of the Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Client Driver is the trick o_O. Also when I replaced the SSD I removed a black plastic sheet covering the whole bottom venting area... and I have the feeling that the Spectre now cools down much faster after load.

    The trackpad is a bit annoying because it has some play and each touch makes a tapping noise. However operation is much superior compared to the Z Canvas trackpad. Also the #pad is a welcome addition.
    I recently noticed is a small spot of some kind of dirt behind the LCD which I haven't noticed before. Maybe I have to send it to HP for a replacement...
    Pen experience is OK - not more, not less - with the limitations and issues introduced to pen usage by the Windows update even with the registry fix applied.
    One thing I will always hate is the awkward 'yoga' conversion. It's just a bad design and I will miss the classic convertible forever :( I hope the Vaio Flip / HP Folio convertible style will be adapted more in the future.
     
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    Just a quick update, HP repaired/replaced my display (went much quicker than I feared, just 7 days from drop-off till delivery).

    I also told them about the play in the touchpad and they said the touchpad is designed that way and can't do anything to change that. So after I received my device from repair I fixed it myself... Just removing the battery held down by 5 screws (and no glue) gives you access to the bottom of touchpad. The touchpad is hinged with metal brackets between the metal frame - and together with the play between the touchpad switch and the frame it's creating that noise on each touch. So the cause is a combination of bad design (metal on metal should be dampened with some soft material inbetween) and high tolerances and changing one of those fixes the issue. I fixed it by placing thin sheets of paper between the touchpad switch and the chassis until any gap was removed. No more tapping noise and generally improved touchpad experience! (maybe an HP engineer reads this :rolleyes:)
     
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    @stormi, I wish we could still give - something better than a "like;" escapes me what the were called. You Don incredible research and DIY stuff and write the most thoughtful and informative posts! Thanks for all the great stuff you contribute. (What were those darn "brownie points" called?! You even got to say what, in particular, earned the accolade.)
     
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    New update, have to send my device in for repair again... This time the mechanism that detects if the display is rotated >180° stopped working. So the keyboard doesn't get disabled now and the display rotation stays in a locked state.

    Also users of the Kaby Lake G CPUs still can't update to Windows 1809 (October Update). Doing it manually gets you stuck at the bootscreen after the first reboot.
    There is an ongoing discussion on the HP forum about the issue ( https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Noteb...e-to-1809/td-p/6849549/highlight/true/page/16 ) and HP finally confirmed to some users that they are working with MS on the issue.
     
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  10. stormi

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    I revert my statement, it was purely a software issue?! :eek:

    I never assumed that because I didn't change anything when it stopped working and I also expected at least the keyboard to be controlled/disabled at hardware level.

    Today the HP support guy connected remotely to my device, checked all kind of stuff related to rotation, software and drivers, installed some Windows updates and 'secret sauce' HP updates and also changed the registry trying to force tablet-mode and auto rotation. After all that didn't help we have done a Windows repair and integrity check and if that wouldn't help (it didn't) the last option I have is to get a Win 1803 ISO and do a system refresh from that (because using the integrated one could end in an update to Win 1809 leading to the previously mentioned issue).
    Fortunately I still had the original SSD with the factory OS and after the SSD swap and boot-up *ta-da* everything was working again as expected.
    But even after after swapping the SSDs again and me already mentally preparing for a fresh Windows installation - after the boot back on my SSD - it continued to work o_O

    So I don't know if it just needed another reboot or if booting into the factory OS revived the tablet-mode or if disconecting the battery did the trick and I have absolutely no clue what originally caused the issue...:rolleyes:
     
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