HP ENVY X2 up on HP.com

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  1. jimmy

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    Mine still shows 12/17
     
  2. jimmy

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    United shipped today from Shanghai with scheduled delivery for Monday
     
  3. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    Looking forward to hearing your impressions. I like the Envy better than most of the new hybrids. The only thing I don't like is the large screen size. I prefer the 8.9" display of the Slate but will probably have to live with a 10" slate for my next unit.
     
  4. Techgeek32

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    Just got my shipping notice. I will have mine on Friday. I cancelled my VIVO Tab order and am returning my overpriced ATIV Pro. I will provide some thoughts on Friday. My only initial con is that no USB port on the tablet. At least ASUS was including a USB adapter for theirs. I am hoping the all aluminum build will satisfy my quality requirements as most of the tablets I have tried did not. Also concerned about the non Wacom, N-Trig digitizer. That might be the deal breaker.
     
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    @techgeek32
    Look forward to lots of observations. Thanks in advance.
     
  6. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    Rumor has it that the digitizer is an Atmel.
     
  7. Techgeek32

    Techgeek32 Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Yes. That is one of my main concerns. Why did HP move away from Wacom and N-Trig? I knoiw why. To save money. I am not very optimistic about the digitizer performance. I did not like the SPens on the ATIV units. The N-Trig on the Sony Duo 11 was actually much better except they still have the tapping noise on the display when inking. Not quite as bad as the older N-Trigs, but still annoying in a meeting. I have used full size pens which are slightly better. I have tried the Sony Duo 11, but it was just too big. I would like to find a clamshell like the Envy X2 in a full HD panel with a Core I processor and a smaller screen. The only option for that is the Surface Pro. I need to be able to type on my lap and the Surface just doesn't do that well. I don't like the Elitepad 900 simply because it only has a Bluetooth keyboard sleeve/jacket design. I loved my HP Slate 2. If they could have put in a high nit IPS display and the new dual core Atom I would have been happy.

    HP just doesn't understand customer needs. They pay these engineers a lot of money and they never seem to get it right. The only reason I am interested in the Envy X2 is the all aluminum design, battery life, MicroSD and Full size SD port. This offers the most expansion of any of the ATOM Hybrid W8 units that are available. I lose a USB port on the tablet part, but hopefully HP realized they need to offer some type of USB adapter for the charging port.

    We will see. Tablets are moving in the right direction but manufacturers just keep missing the mark by a few degrees. I have heard that the keyboard is not that great on the Envy X2 so that might be another deal breaker. After using the keyboards on the 500T and 700T there must be something better out there. Good luck to everyone that has ordered an Envy. I will post my first thoughts by this weekend.
     
  8. jimmy

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    Just got the unit. Will post some initial opinions and some pictures in a little bit
     
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    Any information will be much appreciated, thanks.
     
  10. jimmy

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    First Impressions


    - Very nice build quality - compared with my Transformer Prime, it's night and day regarding how it feels in your hand.
    - In tablet form, it's definitely a little awkward to hold in portrait mode. It's definitely a big tablet. I don't think i'll be doing a lot of kindle reading in bed with this thing.
    - Keyboard feels solid and the touchpad is responsive
    - Latch is nice and secure and easy to pull off and put back on
    - Windows 8 - Definitely need some more time with this. Switching between tablet and desktop mode took me some time to figure out. There are physical buttons or fixed buttons on the screen to take you home. A lot of swipe gestures to get you to where you're going.
    - In tablet mode, the screen is very fluid with no signs of performance issues. Though you can tell this thing is working on the more traditional windows apps.

    more to come later
     
  11. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    You might as well open up an Envy Owners thread.
     
  12. Techgeek32

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    Don't waste your time. I just received my X2 and there is NO stylus. I have spent 4 hours on the phone with HP managers in parts and sales. No stylus is available and there is no ETA. HP does it again. I should have known better. Even if they had used a Wacom digitizer I could have used one that I have laying around, but no, they had to cut corners by going with the third rate digitizer. I didn't even turn it on. I promptly ordered an ASUS 810 and am on my way to ship back the Envy. I am finished with HP. Hopefully you will all learn from my mistake and look elsewhere for your tablets. Hopefully Rick sees this and makes some heads roll. Good luck to those that want to wait for 2 months for this tablet. My company will never buy another HP.
     
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    dceggert Moving 'up' from iPAQ Senior Member

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    If there is ever an indication that there may be an issue with delivery of the CedarTrail devices, the Envy X2 is no longer on the HP website for order. The last I saw on estimated delivery time for an order was 1/18/2013 (yesterday, 12/14/2012). Now the device is off the list...
     
  15. Techgeek32

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    Sorry. I already returned the Envy. Done playing games with HP. I ordered the ASUS 810 with a Wacom digitizer. Equal build quality, thinner, 19 hr battery life, better keyboard, comes with a proven digitizer, better display and even has a case and USB adapter. Oh and the AC adapter is not a two piece power brick like the Envy. Sound was better too. 1024 sensitivity pressure levels as compared with 256 on the Envy X2. It looked nice with the all aluminum build but I didn't need another laptop. I needed a tablet I could ink on from day one.
     
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    Good for you dude. As a TF810C owner, I think you'll be pleased. It's still a little glitchy on the driver front, but totally useable and expected to be better when Asus releases supported driver updates. As a OneNote extender, it's the promised land.
     
  17. Techgeek32

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    Yes. Several glitches, but can be fixed if ASUS puts a support link up for he 810. I am comparing it with the Samsung 700t right now. The 810 has a better display, even though lower resolution, much better battery life and size. My only problem with the 810 that might make me return it is lack of storage and lack of USB 3.0. I have to transfer large files for work and it is really slow on the 810. Hard to give up he size, display and battery life though. I wish ASUS was making an i5 version of the 810 with an 11" display.
     
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    I had a quick play with the X2 in PC World Chester yesterday and it's a really nice device, solid, quality screen and the keyboard is easy to type on. I would possibly consider one but there's better products out there so... Oh well.
     
  19. hawkeye62

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    Give us a hint about what you think is better.:)-

    I have been flipping between the Asus TF810C, Samsung Smart PC 500T and the HP Envy X2. I am not interested in any of the i3/i5/i7 tablets. Lots of compute power but no battery life.

    Regards, Jim
     
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    It is Atmel, & it's TERRIBLE trust me!

    I had the chance to use an Atmel stylus at a press event for the new HP ElitePad 900. This is the worst pen experience you can imagine. One of the rubber tip capacitive pens is better than this pen.

    As a disclaimer, I have owned 2 Ntrig powered pc's & 4 Wacom powered pc's. There is a huge difference between the writing feeling of the Wacom pen systems & Ntrig based. You don't have to love Wacom to admit that they have the best pen technology in the world. Atmel shouldn't have released such a terrible product. If you want the best, you need to vote with your wallet. Buy a Samsung Galaxy Note product that uses a Wacom pen.
     

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