HP Elitepad 900

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  1. dceggert

    dceggert Moving 'up' from iPAQ Senior Member

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    Yes, and my biggest hope is that HP even makes them available for us to purchase. The demo units and jackets may go out first to the Corporate reps hunting for corporate sales. I was able to hold a demo Dell XP10 or whatever they were called (the predescessor to the Dell Slate 10 that is out now) several weeks before the website had any information. It was being shown by the Corporate rep to my company.

    The previews were clear; the Envy X2 is the consumer product and the 900 is the corporate. Time will tell and HP has made the 27xxP and Slate 500 available to us and those were corporate destined as well so the 900 should be available.

    As for timing, it is only (and only has been) promised for "January 2013" so we still have about 3 to 4 weeks to go before things solidify, especially the price. I am hoping for a price in the 800-850-range with the jacket with all the ports about 85.

    Oh, and just one more comment; the Atmel pen does not look to be anything that would stuff into a pen slot. Hopefully that changes with different pens available. Since the Atmel technology is also on smartphones maybe there will eventually be a small 'stylus' as well that could be used in a silo. Right now that "Atmel Executive Pen" looks to be larger than even the old TC1100 pen!
     
  2. e-schreiber

    e-schreiber ƒ(x) / fashion Senior Member

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    Your second statement is right! And I immediately noticed the point of the jackets when they were announced. I even praised the idea as versatile, I think (it's likely posted somewhere in this thread). The hipsters will use the ElitePad "naked"....thin and light like a super model. People with work to do, on the other hand, will "dress" it with a jacket and get extra functionality out of it. But here's a couple things that seem to have been overlooked

    1. Put a silo on the simple jacket, so that, at a minimum, with the least amount of clothes on, people have a place to store their $50 Atmel Pen. Putting a silo on the keyboard jacket doesn't cut it! If a user knows he won't be doing heavy typing for a while, he will detach the keyboard, then carry the tablet with him in its simple jacket. Problem is, that will force him to take his $50 Pen in his pocket. Bad!

    2. On the keyboard jacket, allow the angle at which the tablet stands to be adjustable.

    Regarding your 1st statement: we, blogs and the press only bash HP because of the stooges on the Board of Directors! That's not "fashionable". Fashion is cultural, abstract and without merits. This bashing practice, on the other hand, is based on the overwhelming amount of objective data available. :D

    Do not take it personally. You didn't ok the loss of Billions of dollars....or claimed the company would leave the PC business! And mostly importantly (to me), you have not been heard lauding Apple in every single interview! You are the only single representative of any OEM we have in these forums. No one from Redmond, Round Rock or Seul comes here to give us the time of the day. Yet you take your time to answer questions and, at times, help users with their sometimes poor Customer Support experience. This is gold! I hope HP can awe me with some cool new tablet someday! Despite my criticism, I still use HP's logo on my avatar. That's because I love both of my Tablet PCs. :p




    I think you're onto something. A lot more info should be poured onto this forum to help promote HP tablets. Every time HP posts a new video on YouTube, and every time a new tablet, feature, driver or accessory has been approved by the company, we should hear about it first here.....through Rick! We do a lot of information-hunting and lots of stuff that could promote HP devices never gets to be known because sometimes the info is buried inside an article on AnandTech or a video on YouTube. For example, the fact that HP plans to release a new jacket every 3 months is only known because I saw that being said on a YouTube video and I have repeatedly mentioned it here.

    Either HP creates a webpage like Sinofsky's, where all the new HP stuff on the pipeline is actively promoted, or -- at a minimum -- Rick should leak more info here! ;)
     
  3. Rick

    Rick Sr. Program Manager

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    FYI... The keyboard jacket has 3 preset adustment angles for viewing..

    not so sure about your last comment though :D

    Rick
     
  4. Steve B

    Steve B Moderator Moderator

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    There's a keyboard jacket? I didn't remember hearing that.... Is it like the Thinkpad 2 keyboard? If so, does it travel around by "snapping" onto the front somehow? OR is it a clamshell idea, more like the Transformers and Samsung slates (my highly preferred option)?

    I honestly and truly haven't heard a thing about a keyboard jacket. I assumed it was a slate-only product, like the Dell 10. A keyboard would be very nice. I can't buy the product without one, frankly, for the price.
     
  5. e-schreiber

    e-schreiber ƒ(x) / fashion Senior Member

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    The keyboard jacket appears here. This is one of the best videos showcasing the ElitePad.

    @ Rick: Could you point to a video or photo that shows the keyboard's 3 possible angles? The concern is to be able to work comfortably with the device while lap-typing.

    And I have another suggestion to your consideration. After re-watching the ElitePad video again, I remembered another feature missing: the trackingpoint. Sure a touchpad is an impossibility on a device that small, but the TC-1100 and many EliteBooks had trackingpoints. When the device is used on laptop mode, on the lap, I think it's a hassle to exclusively move things around by touching the screen....Especially spreadsheets.
     
  6. ships10

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    I wonder if anyone knows whether the 4G is standard with the elite 900 and if so is it with Verizon or AT&T? Is the GPS built in too?
    This capability and the 16:10 aspect ratio
    sounds a little more appealing . If they had a standard USB and a full SDXC
    port ....it would have been an almost done deal.
    I'm not sure why they can't make a 128 gb model?
     
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  7. Steve B

    Steve B Moderator Moderator

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    I believe full SD, USB, and extra battery come with the first jacket. So it should become readily available if you're ok with a bit more weight and thickness.
     
  8. ships10

    ships10 Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Yes that seems like the only option....but at a minimum
    those ports should have been included on the base model and let others pick their
    Jackets to meet their respective needs .
    I'm for "work more with less!"
    The whole purpose of tablets is to carry less stuff ,reduce weight and make the experience more effortless ...and increase productivity rather than have to worry
    about jackets.
    Also,the keyboard jacket seems to have no extra battery...ie it will drain battery from the main unit. Huh?
    The option to service it at will is nice option....eg change batteries in the future .
     
  9. Rick

    Rick Sr. Program Manager

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    Will try to take some shots of the keyboard angles and post next week.. Just got back in the US from a very long trip and taking a few days rest. Would have liked to have a track point, but didn't work out..

    Try to answer a few other questions as well..
    Wireless is 3G and will support multiple carriers.
    Each system will include a USB adapter that plugs into the docking connector.
    I understand the request for 128g model.. :)

    Rick
     
  10. dceggert

    dceggert Moving 'up' from iPAQ Senior Member

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    The photo on the HP site (HP ElitePad Features | Business Touch Tablet | HP® Official Site | HP) with the title "Forward-thinking, backward-compatible" has been changed to remove the picture that showed Win 7. Gosh Darn....! I was so looking forward to Win 7 being available as an option when this went on sale. It may still be but this indicates to me that it is less likely now.
     
  11. gcoupe

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    ...and the link for the downloadable datasheet on the HP site is wrong - it delivers the datasheet for the HP Elitebook Folio. I'm beginning to think that HP can't market their way out of a paper bag...
     
  12. Techgeek32

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    Why would people want the 900? I tried the S7S and the separate tablet with dock and Bluetooth keyboard just does not work. You can't type on your lap if you have to. I guess if you only use a desk it would work. They might offer a Bluetooth keyboard with one of the jacket/sleeves but it will be too small to do any real typing. I wish they had just made an Envy X2 on steroids with a full HD display and a Core I5 processor with a 128GB, 256GB storage option along with all of the security features. For those that wanted a more portable option they could have beefed up the Slate 2 and modified it. HP just keeps missing the mark on design and implementation. They are not listening to their customers at all. Most of you have been offering up suggestions for the past year or two and I don't really see them listening when they designed the 900. They will find out that even though the new ATOM processors are much better than what we had in the Slate 500 and Q550 that they still don't offer enough oomph for the enterprise market for most usage scenarios. Enterprise users will go with something like the Fujitsu q702 that offers the security but more configurations and a full size processor. If Microsoft can offer the Surface Pro with some security and external accessories like a desktop dock they could capture some of the business that HP is hoping to get. The 900 does not really offer anything different than the Dell Latitude 10 and that has a user replaceable battery. I am getting the Envy X2 on Friday. I will test the low budget digitizer and see if it compares to Wacom and N-Trig. If it does, then this might handle my needs for the next 6 months or so, but I have no interest in the 900.
     
  13. ships10

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  14. dceggert

    dceggert Moving 'up' from iPAQ Senior Member

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    Because it is the only new TabletPC that is being offered in 16:10 screen ratio.

    Before you say this 'resolution' does not work with Win 8, yes it does. The only thing that does not work is the snap in the new UI, which is a usage pattern I would avoid anyway. Enterprise users will not be using much of the new UI unless MS lets 'apps' be developed outside of the Microsoft 'App' Store, which is doubtful. Until then, the new UI will be unpopulated in the business world.
     
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    Hi, lots of people seem to prefer the Microsoft Surface Pro over the HP ElitePad 900. I do like the Surface but when used on a desk or in the office connecting to various equipment like a mouse, USB drive, big screen, external hard drive, CD/DVD drive you have lots of cables to connect and even start using an USB hub. For that reason I would prefer the ElitePad since it can be used in combination with a docking station that has all these ports available. Its really silly Microsoft did not provide any docking capabilities. I don't want to be right or wrong but I was hoping to get some feedback about these thoughts.
     
  16. e-schreiber

    e-schreiber ƒ(x) / fashion Senior Member

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    @ Rick:

    What about downgrade rights? I know that Win8 Pro is required if one doesn't one to buy a Win7 license. Microsoft has made that clear. But will HP issue Win7 drivers for the ElitePad? It's a business-grade machine, after all! If not, will the Win8 drivers work on Win7? In other words, are there plans to fully support deployment of Win7 on the ElitePad 900?
     
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  17. Rick

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    Neither Microsoft nor Intel supports Win 7 on Clover Trail, therefore there aren't any drivers available to provide.

    Rick
     
  18. dceggert

    dceggert Moving 'up' from iPAQ Senior Member

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    Well, I guess I will be planning on keeping the Q550 a while longer now. I suppose a Q552 is also an option. I am personally staying with Win 7 until Microsoft fixes what it intentionally broke. If they do not, then I will be hoping that Linux gets ported to the Atom lineup eventually, but Intel is preventing that. The writing is on the wall I suppose...another platform is now ruined. My planner may need to go back to paper.... :(
     
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    The HP PageLift Technology sounds useful--"automatically turning photos of whiteboards and documents into editable documents for sharing."

    It could help with going paperless. Often at meetings a lot of paper is passed out--agendas, spreadsheets, etc. It would be nice to snap a photo and then mark these up or take notes on them digitally with the stylus if that's what it offers.

    Does anyone know whether other tablets or software offer this capability?

    Thanks!
     
  20. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope. Senior Member

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    The Q552 is probably the best of the W7 Atom devices but prices are crazy on Ebay. Maybe in a few months, when W8 Atoms are in circulation, sellers will get more realistic.
     

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