HP Elitebook Dragonfly: 13" screen, yoga hinge, 2.2 lbs

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  1. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    It's used. That's really pretty cheap, but Seller is 100% rated with over 1500 sales, so it met my smell test. It was about $100 less than comparable units I've looked at on eBay (with exception of the 2tb SSD - that is a bit puzzling, although I remember that option being available earlier this year when it was on two month back order. Prices have started to fall on a lot of 8th gen Intel computers on eBay with the increasing introduction of 10th gen models. Have even seen some clearance sale prices on pre-configured ThinkPads and Yogas. The clincher was getting the warranty report, and confirmation from Lenovo I can extend the warranty for up to 5 years anytime before the base warranty expires (of course they don't know I haven't kept a computer over three years since my ThinkPad x61s).

    Thanks Joe - I would have preferred at least 16:10, and by the looks of the chin on this model they could have easily done that, but so many still use 16:9 it's insane (I guess we productivity workers, just like note takers, are in a sever minority).

    After these long months of searching and trying so many different computers, I think serious fatigue has set in, along with a dose of sour grapes and the constant tracking of returns and refunds. I still do 80% or more of my computer work at my desk at work or at home, most of that in laptop mode. At work, I like to have my computer open and in tablet mode for note taking and just use my two QHD monitors for work tasks. For this, the X1 Yoga will work perfectly, and with it's 14" screen I can actually use two open documents at one time. As a tablet, it is a porker (anything much over 10-12" is, and we have ALL debated the value of an 8" moleskin replacement), and I don't see it as the "haul to quick meeting" solution.

    So, far from being out of the woods, all I've just nailed down is my upgrade for the GB12. I could have (and many sane minds around here would say SHOULD HAVE) waited for some Ice Lake power, but the only thing that has caught a serious eye has been this Dragonfly, and it is 8th gen Intel anyway. My bet is it will be a significant few pennies more, in a similar configuration, compare to the X1. This way, I get on with life, get garage for my Pen, and get 4g LTE as the cherry on the sundae (not to mention a keyboard I LOVE).

    See, it was all sour grapes...
     
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    lovelaptops My friends call me Jeff Senior Member

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    This is the first time I've ever wanted you to be wrong!
     
  3. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    HP Dragonfly is in SEVERE Nosebleed Territory - this is the quote I got from our rep on a max-config model - $4117 AFTER discount - and this is only an i5!

    HP Elite Dragonfly Notebook PC - Customizable

    SKU:6FW21AV_MB
    • Galaxy Blue Magnesium with WWAN
    • Wacom AES 2.0 Pen with App Launch Button G3 Black
    • Intel® AX200 Wi-Fi 5 (2x2) and Bluetooth® 5.0 Combo, vPro
    • 4-cell, 56-WHr Long Life Battery (Internal and not replaceable by customer. Serviceable by warranty.)
    • Premium Packaging
    • 1 TB M.2 PCIe NVMe TLC SSD
    • Intel® XMM™ 7560 LTE-Advanced Pro Cat 16
    • No WWAN Broadband Wireless Service Provider
    • 65-watt AC Adapter, Straight USB-C connector, slim
    • Intel® Core™ i5 Label (G8)
    • Intel® vPro™ Technology Disabled
    • 13.3" diagonal BrightView LED 4K UHD (3840x2160) bent Touchscreen with Corning® Gorilla® Glass 5, 550 nits
    • ENERGY STAR Qualified Configuration
    • Destination Country Localization Kit
    • Operating System Localization
    • Premium Collaboration Keyboard, spill-resistant, backlit and DuraKeys; Glass ClickPad, Microsoft Precision Touchpad
    • 1.0m Premium Power Cord with C5 connector
    • HP Elite Dragonfly Notebook with Intel® Core™ i5-8365U, 16GB RAM, OS Recovery and Intel® UHD Graphics 620, vPro - 8EC61AV
    • Windows 10 Pro 64 - HP recommends Windows 10 Pro
    • Fan Cover - Standard
    • Three-year limited warranty (3/3/0)
    $4,312. 00
    $ 4,117. 96

    My eyes are still watering - I thought I was looking at a Mac Pro quote...
     
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    bloodycape confused Senior Member

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    what the.....how the hell is it that much?
     
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    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    I don't now, but I had been warned it was expensive, but that is insane. Guess they see it as the device for the C Suite of the C Suite...peons need not apply.

    It's only an 8th gen i5 for heaven's sake.
     
  6. MobileTechReview

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    Old thread, I know... but it looks like prices have come down. Your config is now $2655. It's that 1TB SSD that does the damage-- $667 to move from a 256GB to the 1TB! That same upgrade is $210 on the Spectre x360 13. I'm going to ask HP about that pricing, now that we have one in for review.
     
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    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    It's strange where vendors choose to up the ASP for their devices. Apple has literally robbed customers on storage for YEARS, but it's hard to understand why there is such a huge differential between the Dragonfly and Spectre x360, even with the Spectre being an Optane H10 drive - I guess they figure you have this much nose bleed on the Dragonfly why not press it to the max. Frankly, I don't see a lot of value delta in that Dragonfly vs. the new Spectre.
     
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    Business laptops (and their upgrades) are always expensive compared to consumer line products. But this is a particularly unsettling delta. I've asked HP...
     
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    @MobileTechReview Lisa, I'm looking forward to your review.

    One of my VP's bought a personal unit. We have not run it through our in house tests, but she has mad the comment that "it gets warm quick and often, especially around the G and F keys". She hasn't reported any issues, just that observation.
     
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    I am really getting stuck on the value proposition - the 4k unit only comes with the larger 56W battery, which raises weight to 2.5 lb, and my Spectre x360 goes 2.88 lbs (per HP) - a LOT of coin to shave off 0.38 lb...
     

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