Hardware of Yore

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  1. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    @sonichedgehog360 - do your homework and be sure you consult some experts before doing anything, especially if they are in the condition you describe. These sound to valuable to rush your sale.
     
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    sonichedgehog360 AKA Hifihedgehog Senior Member

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    Definitely. We will take it slow and easy and consult a reputable appraisal service if we do go ahead and sell any of them.
     
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    I had been wondering for years why NTVDM, the subsystem which allows 16-bit applications to run on 32-bit Windows, was not also available for 64-bit Windows. There was once a DOSBox-like program bearing the title NTVDM64 but it was far from the real deal:
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/nxvdm/

    As of about half a year ago, NTVDM has been finally ported to 64-bit Windows, working on Windows 10 x64, and it is called NTVDMx64. With NTVDMx64, you can now run your favorite 16-bit applications just as you would have in Windows XP and 32-bit versions of Windows. The guide is a bit involved, but the benefits are well worth it. (Should this get taken down, I downloaded a local copy just in case):
    https://github.com/leecher1337/ntvdmx64

    EDIT: Here is a pre-compiled distribution.
    http://olivier.poudade.free.fr/
    http://olivier.poudade.free.fr/arc/MSDOSX64.zip
     
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    WARNING! It turns out this does not play nice with Creators Update. It completely broke my Command Prompt and PowerShell functionality. After installing it, not even dir or cd would work properly.
     
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    That one is only to run DOS applications, right? Is there anything that lets you run old Windows 16-bit software? The kind you ran on Windows 95 or 98?

    Digital artist found dead in home. Details sketchy.
     
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    sonichedgehog360 AKA Hifihedgehog Senior Member

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    Besides NTVDM, DOSBox (https://www.howtogeek.com/230359/ho...-dosbox-set-up-drivers-and-play-16-bit-games/) or a VM (https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59559), pretty much.

    The magic of NTVDM in 32-bit Windows is it lets you just double click on a 16-bit program and it runs transparently like any other program normally would. The OS takes care of all the code translation transparently in the background. For games and such, NTVDM is especially convenient.

    GOG (Good Old Games) uses a DOSBox wrapper, I believe, for most of their older games that they sell which have any 16-bit dependencies.
     
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    They do. The last time (only time) I tried to run one in 64-bit Windows 10, however, I couldn't get it to work. (Master of Orion 2). Maybe they've fixed that by now.
     
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    Today I want to give full credit to Computerworld for a great review of tech advertising through the ages. Note an example below from the article (those prices are for MB's folks, not GB's or TB's): :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

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    So, how many could you guess correctly? I'll allow 2 years +/- deviation to count as correct...
     
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    The mere fact I was around for most of these is frightening enough...
     
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