End of an era: Goodbye to MS Journal...

Discussion in 'The Tablet PC Life' started by Shogmaster, Aug 28, 2016.

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  1. XJ12

    XJ12 Scribbler - Standard Member

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    there was no joy in converting my old Journal notes to OneNote. Was partially successful, but what a PITA to transfer to retain the vector data.
     
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    Have you guys come across Squid? (It's on the Windows 10 store and it used to be Papyrus) It's like Journal and produces vector data when you save as a PDF file but it also has a couple of tools like a lite version of Sketchbook Pro - in the free version you get a basic rubber and other journal type tools but there's a nice lasso tool and text can be added in a much more sophisticated way than Journal.
    In the 2 paid upgrades, one has pdf import and markup and the other offers an elipse and straight line tool as well as more sophisticated erasors and other tools. The upgrades come out around £3 for pdf import and £2.50 for the tools pack.

    I actually prefer the linework that Papyrus produces on my old HP 2760 to Journal's line work and have swapped over most of my drawings.
     
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    Tried it before as Papyrus, was put off because of the line smoothing. Tried it now, no more line smoothing! Here's my review:

    As a note-taking app, five stars:
    • No line smoothing - your pen strokes are faithfully translated into digital ink. (Better than Journal in this regard; Journal has slight smoothing that's sometimes distracting)
    • Simple, quick, and unobtrusive interface
    • Very responsive
    • Pressure sensitivity is great
    • Pen/palm recognition settings are smart
    • Page size and type selection is great
    • Small issue - highlighter does not work as expected - writes over text.
    As an annotation app, zero stars:
    • Crashes when loading most of my PDF files
    • No "export to file" on Windows 10
    • Must be purchased from Windows Store (what about enterprise customers?!)
    Utterly unusable for me.
     
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    I haven't had your problems with importing PDF files but then Journal didn't play nice with any other format and I appreciate being able to import and mark up PDF files; exporting - again, Journal didn't give you options and Squid does this strangely - you have to click the share button which is available on the free as well as paid versions - and then share via email (I usually email files to myself)

    Would be easier to save / export to desktop but I guess it was written with modern users in mind who prefer to use cloud and sharing options.
     
  5. digital doctor

    digital doctor Pen Pal - Newbie

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    Tried it on my desktop first.
    It certainly isn't a desktop app !
    There is a swipe up (from the bottom) menu that is needed for alot of things ... and this isn't available on the desktop. Very sad.

    Will try it on my tablet.

    Update: Won't work on my Windows 7 Tablet. needs the app store I guess.

    I guess the company doesnt want people to use their product.

    I also dont see a Journal import ?
     
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    Squid won't accept Ctrl + Z as a command. WTF...
     
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    I've only used squid on my Android TPT when it was still Papyrus. How does the windows version compare to the Android version? What about compared to Plumbago?
     
  8. ATIVQ

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    You guys heard of Xodo? I can't believe I overlooked it. So close to perfect, only missing a few tiny things (like grid paper) to completely replace Windows Journal. And it costs nothing and doesn't require registration and doesn't spy on you, how unusual is that these days?!

    Edit: alright, it's missing a lot. Whoops.
     
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    I can't seem to add a new page via the desktop client ? Add an image ?
    Doesn't feel very Windows Journal like to me.
     
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    Yeah it's missing more than I thought at first. You can add pages through the thumbnail view. Xodo has a habit of hiding away buttons instead of putting them all front-and-center and letting the user choose which ones he wants to see.
     
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