Discussion of the proposed change to the TPCR forum Structure

Discussion in 'Site Suggestions and Site Help' started by CLeonard, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. CLeonard

    CLeonard Tablet PC Review Site Admin Super Moderator

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    Gateway was moved into the Acer (Gateway) forum.
     
  2. e-schreiber

    e-schreiber ƒ(x) / fashion Senior Member

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    On the very top of this page, there's a blue-ish button that says Forum. That will take you to a page with the complete list of forums on this site. One of the forums, almost half-way down the list, is named Acer (Gateway).
     
  3. negative1

    negative1 Scribbler - Standard Member

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    i think the APPLE/ios forum needs to be moved down.

    the windows tablet PC forum needs to be moved up.

    Also, move the news back up to the top, before the
    general. It made more sense to see what's the latest
    and current, because there is so much going on nowadays.

    later
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  4. siddhartth

    siddhartth Scribbler - Standard Member

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    I would recommend that-
    1. E-Readers with pen capability be also included, like Remarkable and various iterations of Sony Digital paper solutions.
    2. And since, the crowd that this forum serves are also invariably interested in pen-abled displays that need to be plugged in to a computer, like Cintiqs and Huion. It will be very convenient if such tools can get a seperate thread here.l
    3. Also since non-penabled ereaders like nook and kindle are undoubtedly tabets given their form factor, they too can be considered for a separate thread. But i myself am not too interested in tablets i can not write on.
     
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  5. Shizaru

    Shizaru Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Don't Wacom deserve a dedicated sub forum? It seems a bit off lumping them into the general category imho, especially since they have released a number of high end tablet PC's. Furthermore they have historically been the major provider of pen tech and are still the benchmark/standard used to evaluate pen performance on competing devices.
     
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  6. siddhartth

    siddhartth Scribbler - Standard Member

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    This is a consumer guidance site, wacom is mostly an enterprise solutions company (except for cintiq and msp). We as consumers buy small individual pieces of consumer tech based on our needs and preferences like apps, OS and display size. Wacom hardware can be used for Chromebooks or for Windows, it can be old EmR or new EMR, it can be old aes or new aes. So a seperate section for wacom doesn't help.

    When someone comes here, it's mostly his her usecase, that he or she's sure of, rest they dont.
     
  7. Shizaru

    Shizaru Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Most consumers will arrive as a result of searching for a device or to search a specific device and then run comparisons. They won't be aware of Wacom as an industry component supplier in most cases, until they do some research in to the subject. Given that Wacom are established in the consumer market with their conventional tablets many people looking to migrate to a Tablet PC would be arriving with the expectation of finding a Wacom section, especially since the advent of the Companion 1/2 and MSP. Most folk won't view Wacom in such broad terms from a consumer environment that's something they learn from reading the content of the site imho. Even after visiting this site many people fail to grasp the EMR, AES argument on a technical level or the other nuances that come with such a debate on a technical level.

    The regular posters here are hardcore enthusiasts and don't reflect the type of audience who arrive here casually while making a purchasing decision. Those people visit in order to extract knowledge and information, from people who can provide them with the information they need, and then they tend to move on, until such time that they need to upgrade or need further advice. It's hard to create an environment that will encourage those people to stick around here and participate, because believe it or not they probably have other things that interest them far more.

    Anyway it strikes me as odd not seeing a Wacom sub category under the Windows Tablet PC's section given Wacom's influence on the general market. It made sense when they didn't offer a PC device, but these days that's not the case, and some would argue that the MSP is the top end/aspirational device in the prosumer pc tech arena. I'm not sure why they would be differentiated against when they produce product that competes with other manufacturers, and they are certainly significant enough to warrant a position outside of the Other Manufacturer's section.

    That's just my opinion as an average punter that arrived at this site as a consumer, following much the same path as I mentioned in the opening paragraph. I ended up visiting regularly (at least once a month) because I have an interest, but that's not the case for most people researching an occasional purchase. Unfortunately that tends to be the usage pattern for sites like this, that deliver quality specialist and in depth knowledge in a niche area of a market. The active hard core members contributions, enthusiasm, perseverance and willingness to share information is what makes this site valuable and trusted as a resource.
     
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  8. siddhartth

    siddhartth Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Ithink wacom should be traetet here like any other hardware manufacturer. Instead of creaying a seperate thread for all things wacom from 4000 usd windows tablets to 50usd aftermarket pens, wacom should appear as a hardware manufacturer subthread under the headings like
    • Windows tablet PC ( along with Microsoft Dell and Lenovo for it's MSP line)
    • Android/Chromebook tablet PC (along with the lines of Samsung, Google etc for it's now defunct Cintiq android companion line)
    • Pen display (along with Huion, artisul, sharp for it's Cintiq pro line)
    • After market pens ( along with Adonit )
    We as a community need to come of age and realize wacom is now just another player in the big arena on penabled consumer tech. We can not afford to be biased or appear biased by giving wacom a special place. It's unfair to the new players like Apple pencil and Adonit. Era of wacom monopoly is over and diverse choices has begun.

    Actually after seeing how different in performance, implementation of supposedly the same licenced tech can be, it's risky to label stuff as generically AeS or EMR. AES in Bamboo ink pen is low IAF but AeS implemented in Google pixelbook 2 is high IAF. Infact, it will be much more helpful if we can differentiate tablets based on parameters like IAF, Tracking frequency, latency and parallax. If not in absolute numbers than atleast in relative terms.
     
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  9. Shizaru

    Shizaru Scribbler - Standard Member

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    I agree with you especially with respect to the wide performance variance between Wacom tech that's being used by third-parties. IAF, offsets and general performance etc. should also be part of the differentiating points highlighted. For the most part I think most posters here do make a distinction between those parameters and different products when they offer advice. Hopefully the people coming here for advice pay attention to those details and the significance of them?

    I'm not a fan of Wacom by any stretch, especially when it comes to their customer service/support, but they are a significant player in this particular niche.

    Edit: I think I caused some confusion when I said create a sub forum when I actually meant the creation of Wacom category under existing forums such as Windows Tablet PC's. My bad.
     
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  10. Ed Hardy

    Ed Hardy FORMER Editor, TabletPCReview Staff Member

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    Friends, this is a "dead" thread that somehow got restarted. The person who originally started it, Chris Leonard, left the company in 2012. It's not going to happen.
     
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