Dell Latitude 5285 2-in-1

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  1. kvoram

    kvoram Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    So, Dell's other entry at CES is their first 3:2 tablet, the Dell 5285 2-in-1:

    SPECS:
    CPU

    7th Generation Intel® Core™ Processors, U Dual Core, with vPro​
    Graphics
    Intel® HD Graphics 620​
    Operating System
    Microsoft® Windows® 10 64-bit​
    Memory
    LPDDR3 1866MHz; 4GB or 8GB or 16GB (on board)​
    Display
    12.3" FHD Touch with Corning® Gorilla Glass® (1920x1280), Anti-reflective and AntiSmudge, (3:2), 340 nits​
    Storage Options
    • Up to 256GB SATA SSD M.2 2280
    • Up to 1TB PCIe NVMe SSD M.2 2280
    • Up to 512GB PCIe OPAL SED M.2 2280
    Battery Options
    31.5Whr or 42WHr battery ExpressCharge capable​
    Power Options
    45W or 65W (3' AC/6' DC Type C)​
    Multimedia
    • 5MP Integrated Camera (User-Facing)
    • 8MP Integrated Camera (World-Facing)
    • Face IR camera to support Windows Hello (Optional)
    • Stereo Speaker with MaxxAudio Pro (2)
    • Integrated Array Microphone (4)
    • Headphone/Microphone combo jack
    • Volume Up/Down Rocker
    • Windows Home Button
    Pen
    Dell Active Pen – PN557W (difference to the "old" PN556W unknown)​
    Connectivity options
    Wireless LAN options
    • Qualcomm QCA61x4A 802.11ac Dual Band (2x2) Wireless Adapter+ BT 4.1
    • Intel® Dual-Band Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac (2x2) Wi-Fi + BT 4.2
    Optional Mobile Broadband options
    • Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ X7 LTE-A (DW5811e for AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, and Generic for ROW)
    • Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ X7 HSPA+ (DW5811e for China/Indonesia/India)
    • Dell Wireless™ Telit Intel Ln-930 AP LTE CAT4 (DW5814e for Japan)
    Optional WiGig Option
    Intel® Tri-Band Wireless-AC 18265 WiGig + 802.11AC 2x2 Wi-Fi + BT4.2​
    Ports, Slot, Chassis
    • 2x USB Type C
    • 1x USB3.0 Type A
    • 1 x microSD card reader
    • 1 x micro SIM card slot (on WWAN only)
    • I2C for Keyboard connection
    • Noble Wedge Lock Slot
    Keyboard
    Dell Latitude 5285 Travel Keyboard (Optional, sold separately)​
    Security
    • Optional FIPS 201 Smartcard reader, Touch Fingerprint reader, Contactless SC Reader/NFC
    • Control Vault 2.0 Advanced Authentication with FIPS 140-2 Level 3 Certification
    • TPM2.0 FIPS 140-2 Certified, TCG Certified
    • Optional Dell Data Protection and Management Software such as Endpoint Security Suite Enterprise, Threat Defense, Protected Workspace, Secure Lifecycle, MozyPro®, MozyEnterprise®
    Weight
    • Tablet only: <2lb
    • with Travel keyboard: <2.7lb
    Dimension
    Tablet – 292mm * 208.8mm * 9.76mm


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  2. alextrela182

    alextrela182 Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    I think current proposal from Dell is the No 1 competitor to upcoming SP5 if USB C ports are thunderbolt support of course.

    It would be big negative surprise if it's not thunderbolt support.

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    Dell Latitude 12 5285 2-in-1 Convertible Review
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Latitude-12-5285-2-in-1-Convertible-Review.216862.0.html

    Pros

    +extremely bright display
    +good performance
    +very quiet
    +very easy to maintain/upgrade
    +2x USB-Type C
    +keyboard dock & Active Stylus included

    Cons

    -gets very hot
    -lower resolution than competitors
    -no Thunderbolt
    -somewhat heavy
    -even the more expensive SKUs come only with a 1-year warranty standard
    -expensive

    Verdict
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    Dell's Latitude 12 5285 is a solid business convertible. The 2-in-1 combines good ergonomics, decent speed and plenty of endurance into a sleek, appealing package. Yes, it looks a lot like Microsoft's Surface Pro 4, but we honestly don't expect Dell to alienate what has been a successful concept just to break the mold. The Travel Keyboard offers solid feedback and offers a two-step backlight to boot. The Active Stylus works very well as an additional input device and offers added functionality in that it can start Microsoft OneNote or other applications. Where the Dell differs from its competition is in two key areas: firstly, while the display resolution is lower - which is not something we consider a significant drawback given the Latitude's business orientation - the display is extremely bright and easily outshines the competitors. In addition, the 2-in-1's hardware is quite easy to access and maintain, which always always has been an Achilles' heel for tablet-based convertibles.

    The Latitude's standout feature is without a doubt its display, which is incredibly bright at an average luminance of over 520 nits.

    Our main dislikes: the 5285 gets very hot under load and is also slightly heavier than the competition. A Thunderbolt 3 port would be nice as well. The Latitude also happens to be very pricey, which for some users might make other convertibles like the Asus Transformer 3 Pro or the liquid-cooled Acer Aspire Switch Alpha 12 more appealing despite their much shorter battery life. Microsoft's Surface Pro 4 is also still a good choice - particularly the version with Core i5 and 256 GB SSD, which sells for just over $1300 at the time of writing.

     
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    It looks like an overall quite nice package, just somewhat overpriced.

    A higher-res screen and TB3 would have been nice. The temperatures seem similar to the Acer SA12, so not that great. But I dig the very bright screen, capable of being used outdoors and fighting bright lights.
    With two USB-C-Ports with USB3.1 Gen 2, that also both support DisplayPort Alt Mode, this can also be charged and connected to a display/adapter at the same time, which many USB-C based tablets can't do. It should also be able to drive two 4K@60Hz screens like with TB3 albeit with two adpaters/cables. So eGPU would be the one missing thing.
     
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    What's the contrast and gamut on the display? Is that battery life with the standard battery or the larger one?
     
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    One of these has just arrived, as we're not really going to keep on paying the large price of the Surface, for a certain individual. It's... actually pretty good. In no way is the quality up there next to the Surface pro line but for the price, refurb from Amazon, of £389 (i5, 8Gb) it's damn fantastic. Plus I can remove the SSD if and when required.

    If only the keyboard wasn't so expensive (£120). (In the future I'll go to eBay).

    If it doesn't break within a few months we'll buy a load more.
     
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    We now have four, as well as the one on the way for me, with no issues so far other than power. When I say power I mean powering additional docks.

    I decided that buying the Dell docks, at the expensive price of x/y, really didn't make sense so opted for the following:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06X9S9TVM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Works as intended BUT the Dell power supply obviously isn't strong enough to power the dock AND the tablet. It works but the user has to press a function key at startup.

    Tested the following and all is well with enough power.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B076Q6Z2RL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Shopping list:
    -Dell 5285 tablet (Charger used for travel)
    -Dodocool USB C dock
    -Inateck 60w charger

    Done. I'm thinking of changing the sata 120Gb sata drive, in mine, for a Samsung pcie. Maybe.


    P.s. The 5290 model, QUAD core model, looks pretty good.
     
  8. MRunabout

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    Aside from the Inateck 60w charger mentioned above, has anyone tried a different wall charger and/or USB-C PD power bank with this tablet? I have a 5285 on order and currently have these chargers:

    Nekteck 60W USB-C PD / 12W - 3 x USB-A wall charger:
    https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Ch...846465&sr=8-4&keywords=60w+usb-c+wall+charger

    Anker 30W USB-C PD / 30W - 4 x USB-A wall charger.

    Nekteck 45W USB-C PD / 12W USB-A car charger:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075WQQG7C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Emigvela 45W USB-C PD / 12W USB-A battery bank:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079FBZY72/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1



    Has anyone used a stylus other than the PN557W? Wacom Bamboo Ink and Smart stylus? These two are listed to be compatible with the 5285 on Wacom's website.



    Lastly, does anyone know if the SSD interface differs between the SATA and PCI-E models?
    Parts People made a video showing the removal of a SATA SSD however the slot looks to be a PCI-E M-key. If they all use an M-key socket, does anyone know at what speed? PCI-E 3.0 x2 or x4?
    Video link at 0:46 shows the socket:
     
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    I just received my 5285 and tested the chargers after dropping the battery life down to about 30%. I'm surprised and quite happy to say that all of the chargers worked, including the 30W USB-C Anker wall charger.

    Nekteck wall charger provided up to 55W
    Anker wall charger provided 30W
    Emigvela battery bank provided 45W
    Nekteck car charger provided 45W

    As far as the two other questions I posted above, I ordered the PN557W but I may order a Wacom stylus one day if the note taking ability of the Dell stylus doesn't suit my liking. The refurb that I got already had a Samsung PM961 NVME drive installed so I can't say for sure what type of socket the SATA based 5285s have.

    *Edit* The Nekteck car charger was able to provide 45W after coming back for a second attempt and verifying with a third attempt. Note sure why it only charged at 30W the first time around with the same amount of battery life.
     
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    I'm pretty sure, after reading various reviews, that the M.2. socket can take either sata or pcie nvme drives. One day I might actually open one to check.
     
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