Clip Studio Paint Discussion

Discussion in 'Artists' started by Art_N00b, Apr 18, 2018.

  1. thatcomicsguy

    thatcomicsguy Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    It's called "Additive Selection". I've got mine set up like that because it's the closest CSP can get to an approximation of what PS can do.

    The problem is that additive selection still allows the user to make easy errors which then need to be undone or edited. Nothing is faster or more accurate than zipping around an object in polygonal mode. Being able to move instantly back and forth between that and freehand selection means you can select extremely complex shapes extremely fast. CSP requires the user to select little bits at a time or fill in the area with a painted mask. -Both of those systems work, but I find them clumsy and slow and prone to errors. It's like trying to cut out cloth with child's safety scissors rather than a grown up's tools.
     
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  2. Shiratori

    Shiratori Pen Pal - Newbie

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    CSP is available at 50% off until 12th June (or 6 months free for the iPad version)
     
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  3. thatcomicsguy

    thatcomicsguy Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    $25 dollars?? Dang! I remember when "Half price" meant something closer to forty bucks.

    There is really no excuse, (except for kids who don't have a credit card, maybe). This is an excellent deal for an excellent piece of software and everybody who hasn't already should bone up and shell out for a copy immediately. This is a staggeringly good deal for what you get, and you KNOW it's going to be a subscription program before too long. Get a "forever" license while you still can.
     
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  4. doobiedoobiedum

    doobiedoobiedum Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Well, a friend bout the CSP EX physical disc for me in the US for $50 in the US and it finally arrived and now installed (today) on my laptops.

    Where would you or anyone else suggest starting? After I installed - it updated to the very latest version and I'm ready to go. Oh yeah - how many machines am I allowed to install on by the software? (It did an automatic registration on installation.)
     
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  5. thatcomicsguy

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    Celsys tells us that you can have their software installed on up to 2 machines with each license, so long as it's the same user and they're not both running at the same time.

    Personally, I'm fine with and understand the single user per license idea, but telling me which machine I'm allowed to use it on? Excuse me?

    Sure, at the moment I only have two functioning computers, (a fixed studio machine and a portable), but if I feel like putting it on a third (just for drawing while I'm sitting on the toilet, say), IF I decide that's how I want to do things in the privacy of my own home, what business is it of theirs? Good luck enforcing that.
     
  6. Azzart

    Azzart Late night illustrator Senior Member

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    It simply won't activate on a third machine, you would need to pirate it.
     
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    surfaceproartist Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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  8. thatcomicsguy

    thatcomicsguy Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    Clip Studio Paint 1.8.4 available now!

    There are a couple of cool new features; an AI auto colour fill, where you just dab down a bit of the desired colour in an area, and the software will work out where the containing lines are and fill them appropriately.

    It's not Human Smart, but it's Good Enough to speed things up. Like auto-select. When used by a top level human, it might be a useful tool. But it also means we're going to see a bunch of crappy comics colouring where it's obvious where and how the artist is being lazy. -Like when you see posters on the subway platform where it's obvious when the illustrator was just shoving a photo through a dumb filter.

    I can't stand those filters! -I remember doing a killer piece of work for a client, where I put in the time to draw a high-contrast line art image of his face for a logo, and his wife was convinced that I'd used a Photoshop filter and looked at me with cold death in her eyes when I went to collect payment. -And then proceeded to make her own amateur hour Photoshop filter version. (They didn't even use my final piece! That's stubborn bitterness right there. The one I did looked sweet.) Moral of the story: high quality work takes high quality effort; even with the best tools, skilled professionals always find a way to stand apart and add that special something.

    That being said...

    I'm super-excited about this one tool:

    Screentone Removal.

    That is, a lot of my early work, hundreds of pages, are covered in Letraset grey-tone product, and for the modern age, I've needed to remove that and get back to just the line work. That's REALLY time consuming. You can't just peel off the product without pulling up the ink and paper as well; it's glued down forever. So you scan and then manually edit. I've long thought that an AI could be very useful; you need to remove uniform grids of identical dots and preserve the lines they might be covering. It sounds like a perfect job for Google's cyber division.

    Of course, Photoshop has a slew of tools which sort of work, but they weren't developed specifically for this task and are of limited use. At the end of the day, you just have to go over artwork inch by inch picking what constitutes an unwanted tone dot and what are character's pupils or freckles or other necessary details. -In some cases, it's just easier to start from scratch and re-draw whole panels. It's painstaking work.

    So I was pumped to try out CPS's new feature.

    Problem is... I can't find it!

    I saw a video where a guy had it working, but he was on a Mac. I can't find anybody even talking about it in any of the available forums.
     
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  9. thatcomicsguy

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    I got a response on the CSP forum.

    The Screentone Removal function is exclusive to the "EX" version.

    I might finally have a valid reason to upgrade now. Maybe. The regular version us $50, which is fine for pretty much every drawing task. If you want the program to automatically layout and format your pages for manga publishing, (isn't that what InDesign is for?) it costs $200.

    I'm not sure spending $200 for an experimental feature is worth it.

    If I was into animation, then sure, the animation features in EX look fabulous, but I'm not, so...

    Hmmm....

    Maybe I'll wait until they have one of their crazy 50% sale days.
     
  10. Marty

    Marty Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    They just had one on Black Friday, and even though I have already have the EX version, I bought a copy of PRO version just cause I love their software so much.

    (This was above Adobe's emails bombarding me to re-sub to CC. :p Screw that!)

    I'm pretty sure with your deal-hunting skills, you'll be able snag one in a few months too. ;)
     
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