Art Programs- user reviews and preferences

Discussion in 'Artists' started by Steve B, Sep 21, 2011.

  1. Selofain

    Selofain Chronic Lurker

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    Well, part of it is definitely my machine, which, despite supporting 2 points of touch, somehow only registers one point of touch. But I couldn't pan either, so I'm guessing Krita doesn't have single finger pan?

    Honestly, that would be my guess. I wish all these art programs weren't so Wintab dependent, but I guess it takes time to adapt the programming to new APIs.
     
  2. thatcomicsguy

    thatcomicsguy Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    What are people's impressions of the latest ClipStudio Paint update? 1.6.7

    I just downloaded it, but after reading through the release notes, I'm not sure it adds anything I'd really notice. I'll try running the upgrade patch (or whatever it is; it's BIG), after I'm finished working on my current project.

    They seem to have made numerous upgrades to improve 3D work and to have gotten their software to play nice with N-Trig tech and the Surface Dial. Seems like a smart and timely release in terms of staying up to date with current hardware trends.

    Still no mention of updating their selection tool so that it works as well as Photoshop's. -And no mention of any work done on their font engine. Those are really the only critical areas for me. (By 'critical' I mean, things CSP does so poorly that it's easier to simply keep Photoshop running in the background for certain tasks.)
     
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  3. Azzart

    Azzart Late night illustrator Senior Member

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    As far as I'm concerned, I don't notice any difference with the older version. :D
     
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  4. neongolden

    neongolden Scribbler - Standard Member

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    I believe they mentioned CSP now works with the Puck (Surface Studio and related devices). It would be interesting to see if someone discovers it as a megaton, or if there's nothing supremely advantageous it can bring to the table over anyone's traditional workflow with the program.

    I also thought maybe being able to register and publish workspaces as a material would be huge, if it is what I think it is. I've been preparing to move to a new computer and, to my knowledge, I basically have to upload the whole 11 gig "Common" folder, and overwrite the one that is created when I install CSP to my new computer, in order to transfer all my brushes and settings. There's also a minor thing you have to do afterwards to get the program to start correctly, so the whole process is a tad cumbersome. So, I had this all set up for when I can return to digital painting on a new device, but maybe it will be even easier now that this update is out.

    Full details of what I'm trying to describe here: https://forum.smithmicro.com/topic/702/transfer-brushes-workspace-settings-to-new-computer/6
     
  5. Azzart

    Azzart Late night illustrator Senior Member

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    Just install Clip Studio, run it a first time, close it and then substitute the Celsys_En folder found in your Documents folder with the one you previously backed up. ;)
     
  6. thatcomicsguy

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  7. stoneseeker

    stoneseeker Animator and Art Director Senior Member

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    I didn't realize you can animate in CSP. Has anyone tried? Is there onion skins? Is it half baked??
     
  8. Marty

    Marty Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Yes! There's onion skins, and a pretty robust feature set. :) I'd say it's good for creating short clips and pencil tests.



    You'll need to get used to some new UI coming from TVPaint, but I think it could be worth it to be able to access all of CSP's nice vector line tools and "lazy color fills" to reference line art layers. ;)

    Note: Animation tools requires the EX version.
     
  9. thatcomicsguy

    thatcomicsguy Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    The only thing with CSP and animation is that in the less expensive "Pro" version, they artificially limit you to a couple dozen frames or so. If you want to do more, you need the "Ex" version.

    Otherwise, the regular Pro version has no limitations on drawing and painting features.

    For some reason, Celsys figures that people will want to upgrade to the considerably more expensive version for comic book layout templates and a few other extras which I can't see the value in. Do Japanese comic artists not know about InDesign or QuarkXpress? Or they just have trouble keeping their files numbered in ascending order like their Western/European counterparts..?

    I guess it's just one of those cultural mysteries which makes the world interesting!

    In either case, I still feel like I should buy another of their products if only to reward them for continuing to develop their excellent software, but I can't bring myself to pull the trigger on the "Ex" version. I just don't need or want it, and it's a lot more expensive for basically nothing.
     
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  10. Art_N00b

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    It's $79 or so when it goes on sale which is 2 - 3 times a year:
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    ... which is only $50 more. Do either InDesign or QuarkXpress go for $50? Even if they do or even if they're free, maybe people like to stay in the same tool and/or, as you put it, want to reward Celsys.
     
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